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Old 07-08-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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A Community Organizer anywhere is going to wave a magic wand and put an end to gangs?

BTW, Obama's stint as a Community Organizer occurred during the 3 years between Columbia and Harvard. He focused on the people living in one housing project. He took the city to court to force them to remove asbestos from the apartments. This was almost 30 years ago, before he attended Harvard and earned a law degree.
What I'm saying is he was out there and has first hand knowledge of how poor really is, so he tells us the story......you'd think it would be more of a priority than let's say, gun running to rebels and drug cartels.
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Why waste an opportunity to slam Obama and liberals??
well what is he doing? nothing, which is funny because isn't he not a politician who only acts when the camera are on him?

and we are not slamming, we are pointing out failures that have cost billions of dollars, limited god given rights, and costs many, many, many lives.
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Isn't Cleveland in your state?????????
Yes, exactly my point. If the problem were lax gun laws, then you'd think this gun violence would plague the entire state, but it doesn't.
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Really?

Where.
My mistake. Standing Armies violate the Posse Comitatus Act. Of course, the Act doesn't apply to the National Guard operating within it's home state as a law enforcement entity, so I'm wrong all the way around on this one.

Isn't it great when someone admits they're wrong about something? Too bad it happens so rarely.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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Poverty that their decisions in life placed them in.
Yeah, like working two jobs, or graduating from a School for Fine Arts, or studying to become a pharmacy technician---like these people:


Mother Of Slain Boy, 14: 'What Am I Going To Do When Christmas Comes ...' - chicagotribune.com
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yeah, like working two jobs, or graduating from a School for Fine Arts, or studying to become a pharmacy technician---like these people:


Mother Of Slain Boy, 14: 'What Am I Going To Do When Christmas Comes ...' - chicagotribune.com
Yup Im sure the house was full of Rhodes Scholars. Every time one of their kids are killed suddenly they are angels on Earth. Yet when you go to their Facebook page it's thug life baby!
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:36 AM
 
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How about some nationally televised court cases from one of these neighborhoods?
Good luck finding a jury.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:08 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yup Im sure the house was full of Rhodes Scholars. Every time one of their kids are killed suddenly they are angels on Earth. Yet when you go to their Facebook page it's thug life baby!
How classy to belittle a family trying to do better.

The mom was working 2 jobs to support the family. You probably wouldn't last a month in Austin. It's easy to criticize from the sideline.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:29 AM
 
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Nothing will be done about all the shootings and killings in Chicago until bullets start hitting the revenue cameras on traffic lights making them inoperative. Money is more important than a life.
Bingo!

There is a reason that neighborhoods just 3 miles apart in Chicago have gun murder rates 40x higher than the other.

Concentrate most of the poor people away from the nice or touristy areas and then use selective policing.

Mess around in those areas and the CPD will bust your head.

It's been that way for decades and decades.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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Weeding other people's flower gardens in the ghetto is not an option.

Education is the only way out of the ghetto and third world countries.
Ghetto people are the exception.

Most are so uneducated (due to their own choices) that they cannot even feed themselves.

You could build the most state of the art, multi billion dollar schools with the tightest security and best teachers and the dropout rate would be the same.

Ghetto people do not respect education....period.

For instance....

Already ballooning to $572 million, Los Angeles Unified's most expensive school – and possibly the nation's – looks like it will need a final $6 million infusion before fully opening this fall.
The Robert F. Kennedy Community Schools, a K-12 complex on the former site of the Ambassador Hotel where Kennedy was assassinated in 1968, needs the money to satisfy environmental regulations.
School board members are scheduled Tuesday to vote on the additional funding request.
The school will consist of six different learning centers and enroll 4,260 students, making the cost per seat about $135,000 – nearly 40 percent higher than the average school built in the central Los Angeles area over the past two years.
It even exceeds the per-seat cost of the pricey High School for the Visual and Performing Arts, whose $132,000 per-seat price tag – along with its bold, roller-coaster inspired architecture – raised plenty of eyebrows when it opened in September 2009.
District officials say the cost of the Robert F. Kennedy complex is more than justified if you consider its urban location, historical significance and expected community role.
"It has all the modern amenities, like an underground garage, a pool, a state-of-the-art auditorium...," said James Sohn, LAUSD's chief facilities executive. "In that context, cost of the schools is appropriate."
The 23-acre Wilshire Boulevard lot will bring the park-starved



Does the above make sense to anyone?
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