Zimmerman Trial Part 4 (legal, death, state, gun)

[swbtoo]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

So when someone gets into a fight and starts losing, it's ok to kill the opponent? Hmmmmm, very interesting.

If one thinks he could be killed, then self defense is justified. I'd say "dying" is the same as "losing" in that case.

[JanND]

Originally Posted by Gunther Rall

ok..I'll edit that.
trayvon had illegal substances in his system. There is no evidence zimmerman took illegal drugs.

And, this is the crux of the matter. Seems Zimmerman's whole case is based on unsubstantiated commentary.....including his own. I don't doubt that Trayvon did sock George at some point...I just do not believe that George as the one that escalated this whole stiuation should not be held accountable.
Trayvon had a right to defend himself...an unknown adult male following him, staring at him...talking to someone on the phone in low guarded tones. He could have very well been in fear for his life. Look at the teens that are stolen daily...We cannot open a paper or check a facebook status without seeing missing and abducted people. Trayvon's perceptions are just as critical, and more justified because of George's actions imo
The jury will decide.

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

So when someone gets into a fight and starts losing, it's ok to kill the opponent? Hmmmmm, very interesting.

Yes it is if they fear great bodily harm or death.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Rakin

Again... Being scared does not justify assaulting someone.

If he was scared he should have run home and locked the door or called 911 instead of talking to D.D.

But thinking your life was in danger, even if it wasn't, makes it OK to kill someone?

Originally Posted by nat_at772

Does sticking your fingers in your ears and singing have some effect on your vision?

Although I too skip over the posts regarding legal expertise & jury know-how.

I think many of us simply skip some posts.

[nat_at772]

Originally Posted by Rakin

Drugs had almost nothing to do with this situation except it go TM suspended from school.

Not even the Defense brought it out for trial.

But yet we still see post after post alluding that Martin was a drug addict...which then justifies him being shot.

[swbtoo]

Originally Posted by Katiana

But thinking your life was in danger, even if it wasn't, makes it OK to kill someone?
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According to the law, yes, if that's what it takes to defend oneself.

[Nonarchist]

Originally Posted by tworent

If what you said up until the last 4 words was true then by law he should walk.

He shined the flashlight in his eyes.

He took the flashlight away and b****-slapped the creep with it.

And, if that wasn't enough, he walked away with the creep's flashlight, the one that didn't work!

Black people are so dumb, that they'll steal an unworkable flashlight while leaving a perfectly good smaller LED flashlight at the T.

Boy! Talk about stupid!

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

The kid didn't like being stalked, he confronted the stalker and was giving him a little b**** slapping beat down. The wanna be macho man turned Vigilante could not accept his limitations, so he pulled his gun(courage) and committed Manslaughter, possibly Murder..

The confrontation NEVER would have escalated if either of these two factors were present...GZ's identifying himself as opposed to playing cat and mouse or...GZ's not having his gun on him as this is what gave him the balls to leave his vehicle to pursue someone he perceived as suspicious.

[Me007gold]

Originally Posted by Katiana

But thinking your life was in danger, even if it wasn't, makes it OK to kill someone?

How do you know its was not. Unless you are in that exact situation you do not know if a life was in danger. All that matters is that the person being attacked felt thier life was in danger. If they say it was, then it was.

[Gunther Rall]

Originally Posted by nat_at772

But yet we still see post after post alluding that Martin was a drug addict...which then justifies him being shot.

Who said that? Which post? Got a link?