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Old 07-10-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Catch the flu in London you might have to prepare a will before you get seen by a Doctor.

oh yeah, much better.
That's not even remotely close to true.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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to paraphrase Barry Soetoro:

"We didn't make this mess, the Government did"
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Catch the flu in London you might have to prepare a will before you get seen by a Doctor.

oh yeah, much better.
How true that conservatives are so demanding that everyone must believe we can't have universal health care, because you could die waiting to a doctor.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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You mean those "rich" countries that are on the edge of economic collapse?
Correct, kind of like us.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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That's not even remotely close to true.
If it were true, the life expectancy in the UK ought to be lower. It's 80. That's ahead of the US.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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If it were true, the life expectancy in the UK ought to be lower. It's 80. That's ahead of the US.
Is that metric or......
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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Is that metric or......
Yes, 80 metric years
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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If it were true, the life expectancy in the UK ought to be lower. It's 80. That's ahead of the US.
The NHS isn't perfect but it's not horrible either. It does some things very well, others not so much, and there is a lot of redudant bureaucracy (mostly introduced by the Thatcher government and made worse by successive governments).

I've used the NHS before and I honestly can't say which system I personally prefer; there are pros and cons with both. However, when I had to visit A&E at an NHS hospital when I was having a life-threatening allergic reaction, no questions about my insurance or identity were asked. I was immediately treated and gave my personal information when I was out of danger...and this was only so they could record the visit on my medical record because they have centralized record-keeping in the NHS. I walked out of the hospital a few hours after coming in without signing a single piece of paper or presenting any ID, insurance card, or credit card to anyone.

If that had happened in the States...even with insurance...I'd be paying hundreds if not thousands out of pocket in dribs and drabs for the next several months.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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because United States indirectly subsidizes the world's healthcare by financing all the medical research?
This is part of the story. Here's more:

Other nations did not start out with 50 states and 50 different entrenched politically appointed insurance commissions with 50 different set of laws.

The Big Pharma, American Hospital Association and medical equipment manufacturers don't own their legislators.

Senior Hospital Administrators ( not Mds) in the U.S. have $ million + comp packages.

Other nations don't do things like create an unfunded Medicare Plan D ( prescription medication subsidy for seniors) and at the same time prevent Medicare from negotiating the price of drugs and do so just 7 years before the oldest of the baby boom begins to turn 65 to the tune of 10,000 people a day for the next 20 years.

No other nation is as litigation crazed as the U.S.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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The american medical system is a billing racket designed to enrich service providers. Doctors here are multi millionairs. RNs make big money. They don't in other countries. Neither Dems nor Republicans will mess with that,especially for the megarich doctors. There's a reason they left this racket in place for Obamacare.
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