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Old 07-11-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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Looks like Forbes has hurt some right wing feelings around here.

Now they're saying that Forbes is a liberal rag. LMAO...

Were they saying all that when little Stevie Forbes was running for president, or excoriating Democrats in the media?
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yes go look at the audit they did on the fed reserve. It's right there or you can pretend it isn't up to you.

Most republicans and democrats in DC are one in the same anymore. You can LOL all you want as the decimate this great country and rob every dollar they can from this nation. I think it's sick.
If you believe this is so they you should be trashing the republicans just as much as you do dems, but that isnt happening is it ?
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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uhm

the national debt when bush took office was 5.87 trillion
whern he left it was 10.6 trillion

currently we are just short of 17 trillion

clinton nearly doubled the debt
bush nearly doubled the debt
obama is on track for more than doubling the debt
i already explained this, 2009 federal budget belongs to President Bush, not Obama, hit google and add int he 2009 debt to Bush.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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bush was projected to have surpluses????...clinton never even had surpluses
yes, Clinton did have budget surpluses. yes, Bush was projected to have surpluses.

from 1998 http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...6/base0398.pdf

damned CBO and there documents still being on line for unsuspecting Democrats to find.

:update: from 1999

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...059/eb0199.pdf


from 2000

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...820/eb0100.pdf
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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Duplicate threads where this theory was laughed at like crazy.

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...isenhower.html

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...isenhower.html

//www.city-data.com/forum/elect...der-since.html
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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yes, Clinton did have budget surpluses.
No he didnt. The federal debt climbed every year Clinton was in office. The only way you can claim surpluses is if you ignore deficit borrowing he did from intragovernmental departments, which is asinine to do.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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i already explained this, 2009 federal budget belongs to President Bush, not Obama, hit google and add int he 2009 debt to Bush.
Bush left office with spending bills unsigned, and Obama not only signed them, but exapanded the spending by nearly $1T..

Maybe you should learn how our budget process works, because even if you want to claim the 2009 budget belongs to Bush, it was passed by both branches of a Democratic Congress
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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No he didnt. The federal debt climbed every year Clinton was in office. The only way you can claim surpluses is if you ignore deficit borrowing he did from intragovernmental departments, which is asinine to do.
Failure to comprehend the difference between the debt and the deficit. Don't worry, it's a common affliction among conservatives.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: California
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Where was the laughing? I actually saw some good, intelligent numerical debating. Something that is rare on this forum nowadays.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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Again, you are stopping your estimate for Bush at 2008, but Bush was in office until January of 2009. He signed into law the 2009 budget, not Barack Obama, so it was Bush's budget, not Barack's
no he didnt. Obama signed most of the 2009 spending bills into law..
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