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Massive increases in your lowest wage workers make it viable to put a large upfront cost to mitigate long term employee costs.
1) Value changes when you up the minimal costs of doing business and the cost of a 50k machine looks a lot more enticing vs paying for 16 hours of 15/hr (plus taxes).
2 year max, basic math, investment/savings cannot exceed 2.
If a self checkout costs 150k, must save 75k/yr. $15 an hour plus benefits * 2 shifts should get you there.
At $8 an hr even with benes * 2 shifts (1 emp per) , it takes far > 2 years to pay off and most corps say NO.
Employees never know the wage, but there exists a wage which effectively prices them out of the market..
Not true, there are a number of stores that have removed self check out, they are not the "slam dunk" answer to getting rid of employees that you seem to think they are. http://www.progressivegrocer.com/dep...-controversial
And the same thing applies to self ordering kiosks, most stores are adding them as an option rather than replacing cashiers, not all customers will use them and for a fast food store the majority of orders are taken at the drive-thru.
Automation will ultimately take over most jobs, that's a fact but the meme that if we raise the minimum wage then automation will just take over the jobs of lower paid employees is just laughable. Low wages, even when raised from the current minimum are still just that...low wages. There is a far greater incentive for business to replace higher paid employees, and here's a little interactive tool that you can use to calculate the likelihood of any job being replaced by automation
Automation is still expensive to pull off.
The truth is, if an increase in MW... an increase that was a long time in coming, is enough to upset business operations, these businesses don't seem to be worth their salt.
I've ran into individuals who were more savvy than that. When their rent went up by a whole $200 a month, they didn't throw in the towel. They made sure they had a buffer in their expenses, and save enough $$ to pull through. Amusing how businesses can't plan ahead like this.
They did plan.. fire the workers and go automated. Hope that $15 an hour works for them when they get their walking papers. You are looking at a huge increase in costs of business for people making a 3% profit margin.
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Not true, there are a number of stores that have removed self check out, they are not the "slam dunk" answer to getting rid of employees that you seem to think they are. http://www.progressivegrocer.com/dep...-controversial
And the same thing applies to self ordering kiosks, most stores are adding them as an option rather than replacing cashiers, not all customers will use them and for a fast food store the majority of orders are taken at the drive-thru.
Automation will ultimately take over most jobs, that's a fact but the meme that if we raise the minimum wage then automation will just take over the jobs of lower paid employees is just laughable. Low wages, even when raised from the current minimum are still just that...low wages. There is a far greater incentive for business to replace higher paid employees, and here's a little interactive tool that you can use to calculate the likelihood of any job being replaced by automation
Progressive grocer and NPR? While you hold to that I will notice expansions of self checkouts at Lowes, Home Depot, every food store, and now my fast food joints.
Aside from punting automation to the forefront and rampant inflation you have accomplished nothing. Congrats.
I just want to know how the greatest (atleast Pre-Obumbler) nation on the planet has so many people that are unable to get an education that we have to pay them wages that a are higher than some police officers. How about going to school, get an education and contribute to this countries future. in 5 years they will ***** they want $20.00. It's an entitlement attitude breed by progressive nut jobs.
Not true, there are a number of stores that have removed self check out, they are not the "slam dunk" answer to getting rid of employees that you seem to think they are. http://www.progressivegrocer.com/dep...-controversial
And the same thing applies to self ordering kiosks, most stores are adding them as an option rather than replacing cashiers, not all customers will use them and for a fast food store the majority of orders are taken at the drive-thru.
LOL. When a big box or grocer adds self serve, one employee monitors 4 checkouts, a reduction in force per shift used of 3 employees.
People use them more all the time. Newer Wal Marts I have seen are being built with more self serve than existing stores already have.
Luddites said the "They will never use it" about atms, too, and 25 years ago, major banks had far more tellers than today, despite having far more accounts now.
None of those stores really care about customer service anyway, look at Walmart they still can't figure out that a computer can't stock shelves, so instead of hiring minimum wage workers, they just close the stores instead.
I just want to know how the greatest (atleast Pre-Obumbler) nation on the planet has so many people that are unable to get an education that we have to pay them wages that a are higher than some police officers. How about going to school, get an education and contribute to this countries future. in 5 years they will ***** they want $20.00. It's an entitlement attitude breed by progressive nut jobs.
Progressive grocer and NPR? While you hold to that I will notice expansions of self checkouts at Lowes, Home Depot, every food store, and now my fast food joints.
Aside from punting automation to the forefront and rampant inflation you have accomplished nothing. Congrats.
Attack the source when you can't refute the data, congrats.
I just want to know how the greatest (atleast Pre-Obumbler) nation on the planet has so many people that are unable to get an education that we have to pay them wages that a are higher than some police officers. How about going to school, get an education and contribute to this countries future. in 5 years they will ***** they want $20.00. It's an entitlement attitude breed by progressive nut jobs.
The disconcerting thing is why we're paying our police officers so little. We have far bigger problems in this country right there.
Entitlement attitude tends to breed the "let the eat cake" mentality, thinking that if everyone got a Bachelors, they'd be able to get a job several notches above MW. There are only so many positions available. Businesses don't just create new jobs for graduates just because people graduate.
They did plan.. fire the workers and go automated. Hope that $15 an hour works for them when they get their walking papers. You are looking at a huge increase in costs of business for people making a 3% profit margin.
No they didn't. If they did, they wouldn't need to fire that many workers in the first place, just like an individual who plans wouldn't have to sell his house, or get evicted.
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