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Old 07-14-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper View Post
Your obsession with Emmet Till is unhealthy.

The more people use Emmet Till as the reason for today's racial divide, the less credible they become.

Here's a clue: Idiots like 0bama, Frederica, Hank, Al, etc, are largely responsible for current racial division.


Didn't watch the trial or see any evidence, did you! The reason you aren't getting answers is because your theory is just plain wrong, as in inaccurate wrong. Everything you say is wrong.

But keep on believing. Makes no difference to me.
I agree that Obama is responsible, through no fault of his though. You and your racist bigot cohorts went absolutely nuts when he was elected in 2008.

 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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Someone was killed. And the "Self defense" BS doesn't work with me.
Well I bet youll think differently if you are ever in a situation that you need to use it.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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There was no crime.
....in your opinion.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Insignificant to one of them doctor peoples. Any claims that Z was in danger for his life are instantly debunked with that statement.

VERY INSIGNIFICANT INJURIES.
While taking a beating you don't know what his belief was....if he thought he may suffer great bodily harm with the next smashing of head to cement...that's all it takes and lethal force is justified. I know you read that law. You don't have to prove the actual injuries after the fact.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by KathrynAragon View Post
No, all we know is that GZwas following TM and then the two of them had some sort of confrontation and TM was apparently better at fighting ... till GZ pulled out his gun. We don't really know, because there are no witnesses, who attacked who initially. And THAT is crucial to the case.

Which is why, I suspect, the jury had to find GZ "not guilty." By the way, "not guilty" doesn't actually mean "innocent." It simply means that the prosecution didn't prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that GZ was guilty of murder or manslaughter.
Thank you for stating what should be obvious...
Great post
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mezter View Post
Someone was killed. And the "Self defense" BS doesn't work with me.
Yeh to you!
The evidence, or lack there of, proves otherwise.

It was an unfortunate situation that should have gone down differently. Somebody died. It's a shame.
Doesn't make it a crime.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It's the prosecutions' job to prove that the action was murder and not legitimate self defense. At issue is a state of mind (a "mens rea"), which is a core element of the crimes of murder and manslaughter. The prosecution has to prove that state of mind, which includes proving that no reasonable person would have a reason to act in self defense.
If that was your argument, I wouldn't have anything to complain about. You're the one pushing GZ story as fact, and that's absurd. Taking the word of someone w/ a motive to frame the narrative a certain way and has no one corroborating the encounter says something about a narrative you already have in your head.

Oh and then your personal attack on me as a Black man who blames "Whitey" for something, just confirms it.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: DFW
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....in your opinion.
The jury thought so also.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Well I bet youll think differently if you are ever in a situation that you need to use it.
It's BS because I don't believe it was self defense. Not because I wouldn't defend myself if I wasn't being attacked.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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....in your opinion.
No.
According to the evidence and the courts decision.

The only crime was TM assaulting GZ.
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