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First it was the Native Americans, then the blacks, chinese, irish, italian,puerto rican, mexicans ----there's always some group that some Americans can focus on to hate because they're just so bad and lazy and shiftless. Now, it's the poor and hungry.
What I was trying to say --- how can so many people "need" food stamps when so many millions of jobs cannot be filled because these people simply will not work them.
We cannot go on putting more and more millions of Americans on government handouts for the rest of their lives because they don't want to work, while we must keep bringing in millions of foreign workers to fill all the jobs.
One out of seven Americans on food stamps is ridiculous. These are mostly able bodied people.
The majority of people on food stamps have jobs.
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Originally Posted by Magritte25
You really do not understand the demographics of those on food stamps. The majority are the working poor, disabled, elderly and children. NOT lazy people who "simply will not work".
Yes.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
I would love to see a study that indicates that the people getting food stamps are not entitled to them, I don't doubt there is a degree in fraud and abuse but in general they go where the are needed.
True. I have worked in social services for close to 25 years. In that time I worked in family support in a few different states, determining eligibility for SNAP and other programs. Yes, there are some people who abuse the system and there is some fraud, but we do have many safeguards to guarantee the honesty of mst SNAP recipients.
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Originally Posted by malamute
So? There are still food stamps. It's time to dump the able bodied off these programs and focus on the true needy. One out of seven people on food stamps is too many and it's time to turn things around.
Again, most people on food stamps are working. A large percentage of SNAP recipients are the disabled, elderly and children.
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Originally Posted by momonkey
People are out of work because they don't need to work when the nanny state buys their food.
Again: the majority of food stamp recipients are workers.
And of course we should remember the fact that the Republican Party is HUGELY into big nanny-state government. They may have differen aims, but they are every single bit as into huge, wasteful, intrusive nanny state government as the Dems.
Good article on how the bill was passed in the house, no issue with compensating wealthy farmers but the poor hanging on at the low end of the scale are the issue.
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“This is a victory for farmers and conservatives who desired desperately
needed reforms to these programs,” said Representative Eric Cantor, the majority
leader.
The House bill actually spent more money on subsidies
for farmers than the bipartisan Senate version the Republicans scorned. It also
dropped the Senate’s limit on aid to farmers with incomes of more than $750,000
a year. And while it mimicked the Senate in dropping most of the much-derided
direct payments to farmers, the House gave cotton farmers a two-year
extension
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The larding of benefits to farmers didn’t come up during the House debate. It
was all about food stamps, and Democrats asking to know why their colleagues
wanted to cut aid to hungry children and old people.
First it was the Native Americans, then the blacks, chinese, irish, italian,puerto rican, mexicans ----there's always some group that some Americans can focus on to hate because they're just so bad and lazy and shiftless. Now, it's the poor and hungry.
Let them eat----!
Spoiler
...nothing....
They're running out of demographics quickly.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Good article on how the bill was passed in the house, no issue with compensating wealthy farmers but the poor hanging on at the low end of the scale are the issue.
Well there might be a war on the poor from taxpayers but Congress has no intention of ending or curtailing any of these programs. Over 60% of Americans get some type of financial payment from Uncle Sam.
Once 20 million illegals become legal that number will grow. They are only restricted from 5 of the 83 means tested welfare programs once they get amnesty.
If anything, we'll just borrow more to keep the payments flowing.
Well there might be a war on the poor from taxpayers but Congress has no intention of ending or curtailing any of these programs. Over 60% of Americans get some type of financial payment from Uncle Sam.
Once 20 million illegals become legal that number will grow. They are only restricted from 5 of the 83 means tested welfare programs once they get amnesty.
If anything, we'll just borrow more to keep the payments flowing.
Once they get amnesty??? Isn't that in 13 years at best case? Where did 20 million come from? Best estimate is 11 million. A little more than half of what your saying.
Well there might be a war on the poor from taxpayers but Congress has no intention of ending or curtailing any of these programs. Over 60% of Americans get some type of financial payment from Uncle Sam.
Once 20 million illegals become legal that number will grow. They are only restricted from 5 of the 83 means tested welfare programs once they get amnesty.
If anything, we'll just borrow more to keep the payments flowing.
They are cutting back on food stamps, not so much on farm subsidies, the article I posted indicated we needed to pay Brazil $147M because we distorted the cotton market. The debate in the house was all about food stamps, not about farm subsidies.
If they couldn't agree on a budget last year with both combined what makes you think there is any hope to reach agreement with both separated.
One of my favorites is Congressman Fincher's quote, drips with hypocracy.
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That raised Representative Fincher’s hackles. “Man, I really got bent out of
shape,” he told that Memphis audience, proudly reporting that he countered with
Thessalonians: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
By now, you must be wondering why I keep bringing up this guy. Fincher is a farmer who has, over the years, received $3.5 million in federal agricultural subsidies, much of it for — yes! — cotton
There are PINS in my general area that include acreage that once was farmland. Zoning precludes dividing many of PINS into smaller lots. Only thing planted is giant houses, sod and pools. And yet, some owners collect annual checks.
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