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Old 07-12-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There has been bipartisan agreement on the farm bill for decades, republican and democrats, cities rural areas coming to compromise for a win-win.


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The House passed a farm bill. The Senate passed an immigration bill. One
might think this is a sign of a summertime thaw in the frozen gears of
Congress.

Think again.

For the past three decades, Congress has passed farm bills by marrying
interests of rural state legislators (whose constituents are big users of
federal agricultural subsidies) with urban legislators (whose constituents are
bigger users of food stamps) to overwhelm the opposition of the truly fiscally
conservative who’d spend less on both.

The assertive rank-and-file Republicans in the House, though, sank a bipartisan farm bill by amending it to cut $20 billion from food stamps over 10 years. This week, House leaders stripped food stamps from the bill altogether, stunning the farm lobby. With a lot of arm twisting and derisive commentary from Democrats, leaders squeezed a bill through the House 216-208 (with six Republicans and five Democrats not voting.) All the Democratic votes were no.
What the Farm Bill Says About House GOP - Washington Wire - WSJ
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:47 PM
 
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Even liberals are admitting that all the food stamps and other government welfare handouts are making Americans lazy, even in high unemployment regions, farmers cannot find workers. What isn't a good idea is to keep upping the number of Americans on food stamps while bringing in many millions of cheap foreign workers who also need government handouts.

It's time to start cutting back on these welfare handouts, let people get some kind of work ethic.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Even liberals are admitting that all the food stamps and other government welfare handouts are making Americans lazy, even in high unemployment regions, farmers cannot find workers. What isn't a good idea is to keep upping the number of Americans on food stamps while bringing in many millions of cheap foreign workers who also need government handouts.

It's time to start cutting back on these welfare handouts, let people get some kind of work ethic.
Interesting that you singled out food stamps while ignoring farm subsidies.

Food stamps are going to the people that need them, they are high levels because of the economy, that is why we have the program in the first place. No one wants to remain on food stamps, they need a safety net because they are out of work.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Interesting that you singled out food stamps while ignoring farm subsidies.

Food stamps are going to the people that need them, they are high levels because of the economy, that is why we have the program in the first place. No one wants to remain on food stamps, they need a safety net because they are out of work.
One out of seven Americans doesn't need food stamps when jobs go begging for workers and employers need to bring in millions of illegals every year -- according to liberals.

North Carolina is a good example, Americans want even more extensions on unemployment handouts while the only way many jobs can be filled is by bringing in illegals to do them. And that is according to liberal sources.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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One out of seven Americans doesn't need food stamps when jobs go begging for workers and employers need to bring in millions of illegals every year -- according to liberals.

North Carolina is a good example, Americans want even more extensions on unemployment handouts while the only way many jobs can be filled is by bringing in illegals to do them. And that is according to liberal sources.

Workers from Mexico that are willing to uproot and leave their families to work at minimum wage are not the standard. If there are jobs in proximity to the unemployed they take them, no one is going to move to another state to make $10 an hour.

I don't know where you came up with 1 in 7 don't need food stamps.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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Interesting that you singled out food stamps while ignoring farm subsidies.

Food stamps are going to the people that need them, they are high levels because of the economy, that is why we have the program in the first place. No one wants to remain on food stamps, they need a safety net because they are out of work.
Exactly.....corn subsidies have to go like yesterday.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Just because something has been done for years does not mean it s right
This is what is so sad about politics today. Dems argued for years to end the subsidies to the big agro firms
This will make it easier to do. Separate individual welfare from corporate welfare and then make your argument s. No more using the excuse you are going to give del Monte a huge tax break because you don't want to vote against food stamps.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:30 PM
 
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The government liars, louts and their ag cronies wont be happy until they create a famine.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:38 PM
 
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My Congressman is the worst. Stephen Fincher (TN-8) owns an enormous agribusiness that takes millions from the government. Then he goes to Washington, complains about wasteful spending, and votes to cut off food for our nation's most vulnerable, many of whom are children. Anybody who votes for him should be ashamed.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:43 PM
 
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My Congressman is the worst. Stephen Fincher (TN-8) owns an enormous agribusiness that takes millions from the government. Then he goes to Washington, complains about wasteful spending, and votes to cut off food for our nation's most vulnerable, many of whom are children. Anybody who votes for him should be ashamed.
That's pretty much the issue, the house vote was reversed to defeat the bill when food stamps was attached.
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