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how do you know it's the truth when its coming from the words of a killer? of course he will say it was self defense and possibly make stuff up to stay out of prison
the problem is, you can't hear the other person's story so this law is not working as it was intended, i assume it was intended for honest people, which was naive to say the least
Innocent until proven guilty is the foundation of our criminal justice system. You cannot presume the killer is guilty first.
I do believe that Zimmerman believed Trayvon to be unarmed.
If Trayvon didn't have black persecution complex, he might have considered Zimmie to have been the armed creep that he was, and he might have taken more evasive action.
He simply had too little worldly experience to have fathomed an ARMED crazy ass cracker.
gun advocates always say, well its just once incident, why label the whole gun owner group? well yea, its like one, per week...
just the fact that you are allowed to kill someone and say it was self-defense with NO witnesses confirming your story is incredible to me
even miami police chief and many other police officials said the law was "dangerous and unnecessary": As Florida police chiefs predicted in 2005, the law has been used to justify killings ranging from drug dealers’ turf battles to road rage incidents. Homicides categorized as justifiable have nearly tripled since the law went into effect.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/op...-law.html?_r=0
but of course it's smarter to listen to redneck, hillbilly nutjobs and their arguments for it than police supervisors who do this for a living.
So in the cases you cite above, how many are defended under SYG?
That make absolutely no sense?
Can you explain why?
With the angle you are coming at it, it would justify shooting cops that have a gun, because you would feel threatened.
Police is a different matter. Z is not a policeman.
If Z was following T-man with gun's blazing or showing and that fact was known to T-man, it would present an immediate danger to T-man's life. T-man would be totally in his right to fight back with deadly force. SYG or not, he would be justified to use force.
The left notes "exceptions to the rule" to diminish a law which is quite sensible. Much more common is the situation of a defenseless citizen, killed or brutalized by a criminal. Of course, these events receive no coverage in the media, as it is considered "normal" by the left and business as usual.
The "rights" of criminals have been promoted for too long at the expense of victims. "Stand your ground" laws allow citizens to defend themselves from violent criminals.
When one engages in a violent act against another, your "right" to kill them and not suffer consequences should not exist. If you are trying to kill someone or severely injure them, perhaps you deserve to die. God knows our "justice system" is soft on criminals and justice is never actually realized for the victim.
The left notes "exceptions to the rule" to diminish a law which is quite sensible. Much more common is the situation of a defenseless citizen, killed or brutalized by a criminal. Of course, these events receive no coverage in the media, as it is considered "normal" by the left and business as usual.
The "rights" of criminals have been promoted for too long at the expense of victims. "Stand your ground" laws allow citizens to defend themselves from violent criminals.
When one engages in a violent act against another, your "right" to kill them and not suffer consequences should not exist. If you are trying to kill someone or severely injure them, perhaps you deserve to die. God knows our "justice system" is soft on criminals and justice is never actually realized for the victim.
im not left, im common sense
when exceptions happen this often, they stop becoming exceptions
are police officers that were largely against it leftist too?
why should any of the law abiding that is in fear for their be forced to retreat in order to shoot some criminal? SYG laws should be the law of the land as the police are not there to protect the individual citizen at all, and when they do respond, they always come after the crime is already over.
"His wife called 911 and was telling our dispatchers that he was trying to break into the residence. So as officers were in route to render aid, he made his way into the residence. She retreated into the back bedroom, and at some point fired a shot and he was killed," said Guy.
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