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View Poll Results: Repeal "Stand your Ground" laws?
Yes 64 32.16%
No 135 67.84%
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Just one of many cases where this law was adopted. Why did this man have an ice pick to begin with? Who drives with an ice pick at hand? Perhaps, a nutjob? How do we know he is telling the truth, we can't hear another guy's version cuz he's dead! The race is also a factor, and they are quick to attack black people and then claim self defense, but the gun happy redneck nutjobs are killing other white people too so everyone should be concerned. As someone posted in the Zimmerman thread: Florida Man Shoots Pizza Restaurant Patron for Complaining About Slow Service, Tells Police He Was Standing His Ground

Florida man kills door-to-door salesman: I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/2...n-my-property/

This craziness needs to stop.

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Old 07-14-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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The SYG laws need to be repealed. Self defense is a very real need and should be protected under the law. But SYG laws make a mockery of justice and responsibility.

SquareWheel - nothing wrong with an OP stating a position to his topic. Quite refreshing actually.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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SYG needs some serious scrutiny. It would seem that it give a killer a free pass as long as he/she can say they were in fear for their life AND there are no witnesses.

PS: I see people replying to their own threads all the time.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Florida man shoots and kills 17-year-old teen after argument over loud music at gas station - NY Daily News
Florida man shoots neighbor in the face and tells police ‘I only shot a ni**er’ | theGrio
Home Invasion Suspect Uses "Stand Your Ground" Defense In Murder - WSPA

gun advocates always say, well its just once incident, why label the whole gun owner group? well yea, its like one, per week...
just the fact that you are allowed to kill someone and say it was self-defense with NO witnesses confirming your story is incredible to me
even miami police chief and many other police officials said the law was "dangerous and unnecessary": As Florida police chiefs predicted in 2005, the law has been used to justify killings ranging from drug dealers’ turf battles to road rage incidents. Homicides categorized as justifiable have nearly tripled since the law went into effect. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/op...-law.html?_r=0
but of course it's smarter to listen to redneck, hillbilly nutjobs and their arguments for it than police supervisors who do this for a living.

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Old 07-14-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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Please watch this video before you comment on the SYG. You would be glad that you did as you wouldn't make a fool of yourself or end up dead or in jail.

Massad Ayoob - Cato Institute - Stand Your Ground Laws - YouTube
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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Before we talk about repealing a law it might be wise for a few of you to learn what the law actually means AND realize that just because someone claims SYG doesn't mean they're justified in doing so.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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At the same notion, we should repeal self defense as so many people claim self defense, from drug war to road rage.

Yes I was being sarcastic and no you don't even know what SYG is.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Before we talk about repealing a law it might be wise for a few of you to learn what the law actually means AND realize that just because someone claims SYG doesn't mean they're justified in doing so.
they are found justified too often when they are not
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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Did you watch the video?
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