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Bingo.
Then he'd be in court for murdering a Hispanic.
None of us would have ever heard about it.
Zimmerman looks nothing like what a son of Obama's might.
There's no media and pot stirring value in a black murdering a Hispanic. It happens here in Compton and N. Long Beach all the time, and gets middle of the paper not top of the fold coverage.
Some f'n crazy neihboorhood watch guy who gets his ass kicked for following someone he shouldn't of would of never made the news. He would of had learned a valuable lesson, and both of them would of went home and slept in their beds.
Trayvon might of been prosecuted (it would never make the news) but I doubt it, it would be Trayvon vs Zimmerman on who assaulted who.
A gunturned a non-event into a tragic event
as Guns normally do
Yeah sure, Trayvon was a fighter sure. . .and probably kicked his share of ass as some teenagers do
but there is no history of murder in Trayvon's background. . .so why would he start now in full view of a bunch of people. . .doubtful to the extreme.
Since you're speculating...
The next head bang on the concrete leaves gz in a coma. TM runs to the house he's visiting. Nobody knows him, he leaves the next a.m. as planned. Unsolved Assault in Sanford. Back in Miami, tm becomes a mini-star for teaching the cac a lesson.
Where is there any evidence of this? Even if Zimmerman was following Martin in plain sight, from thirty feet away, it's still not against the law, and does not justify a punch in the face. If you are in a strange neighborhood, don't like being followed, then leave, it's that simply.
No, it's really not. Martin was a minor and his dad lived in that neighborhood. Where did you want him to go?
Also, a punch in the face may justify death in Florida, but in the real world not so much.
The jury clearly decided that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense when he pulled his gun and shot Trayvon.
That means they decided that Trayvon had done something that constituted an immediate and possibly deadly threat to Zimmerman. That act was probably, going after Zimmerman (who was following him but not stalking or attacking him), grabbing or jumping on him, knocking him down, and bashing his head multiple times into the concrete sidewalk with his fists. Slamming GZ's head repeatedly into the concrete that way could conceivably crack his skull, which could kill him. Zimmerman shot Trayvon before that could happen... but what if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun?
Then this trial would have been over Trayvon, not Zimmerman. Trayvon would have been accused at least of assault, quite possibly assault with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. And if he'd managed to crack Zimmerman's skull, maybe the charge for which Trayvon was tried, could have been murder.
Zimmerman did have the gun, and used it, so the trial went as it did. Trayvon was, in fact, guilty of assault - the jury decided he attacked Zimmerman. But since Trayvon lost his life as a result of assaulting Zimmerman, obviously there was no point in making any such charge against Trayvon any more, despite Trayvon's actions.
But if Zimmerman had not had a gun that night... it's pretty clear Trayvon would have been found guilty of assault, and possibly murder.
If Zimmerman had not had a gun that night, he would never have gotten out of his car.
If Zimmerman had not had a gun that night, he would never have gotten out of his car.
How do you know that? Most conceal carriers that I know are actually more apprehensive and more cautious when they have their firearms on their person.
Originally Posted by Nonarchist Zimmie was trespassing on Trayvon's person.
Trayvon should NOT have pulled his punches.
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Originally Posted by OICU812
Where is there any evidence of this? Even if Zimmerman was following Martin in plain sight, from thirty feet away, it's still not against the law, and does not justify a punch in the face. If you are in a strange neighborhood, don't like being followed, then leave, it's that simply.
This is exactly why the case should never have been brought before the public the way it was. That statement was two lies, nothing more than speculation, and represented as fact. If he says it enough he knows some people will start repeating it.
It would be nice if he'd stop trespassing on the facts.
If Trayvon was a woman, it would be a different story. Come back to me after YOU have been followed by a strange man in the dark and tell me that's not a threat.
No, it's really not. Martin was a minor and his dad lived in that neighborhood. Where did you want him to go?
Also, a punch in the face may justify death in Florida, but in the real world not so much.
A punch in the face can easily be fatal, or cause serious bodily harm, both of which justify self defense by any means available, and that is what happened, except it was ground and pound, in the lovely venacular of the "hood".
A punch in the face can easily be fatal, or cause serious bodily harm, both of which justify self defense by any means available, and that is what happened, except it was ground and pound, in the lovely venacular of the "hood".
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