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whats amazing is that actual black immigrants from Africa don't want anything to do with African-Americans. And the African Americans that do go back to Africa are frowned upon there.
I've heard the same thing; I don't know if it is true.
whats amazing is that actual black immigrants from Africa don't want anything to do with African-Americans. And the African Americans that do go back to Africa are frowned upon there.
It's all about mentality. You want to continue to listen to the likes of Jesse JAckson, Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakahn you will continue to live in ghetto's and expecting "whitey" to pay for everything.
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finance Israel. Actually, Black-American tax payers help finance them (not to mention all the reconstruction in Afghanistan and Iraq--which typical of the U.S. shows less long term commitment than the investments European empires made in their colonies from Vietnam to India to Mexico to the USofA; ergo that fiasco of a project that resulted in Liberia).
Black-Americans can learn from some of the traditional societies and ethnicities of Africa.
But I'll admit here some areas of black Africa have been hit so hard from genocides and civil wars that its people are rather diabolical. Their youth corrupted from war crimes that were essentially vicious murders and rapes.
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As for racism, how can they continue to scream racism when they have a black president, elected twice? If it weren't for the the white vote, Obama would not be in office.
Because of institutional racism that infects other institutions like banks (loans), police forces, schools and so forth.
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I don't agree with his reaction to the Zimmerman trial. I don't agree with most blacks reaction to it. I'm not even sure I agree with the Department of Justice jumping in right away, a day after the verdict, to review the case and consider charging Zimmerman in Federal court on Civil Rights charges.
The U.S. is very racially divided and "race" takes on political dimensions. The DOJ jumping in resounds with politics to me and little to nothing to do with motivations around justice.
But youth comes with a curse. That curse being you didn't see what came before you and you have too little life experience to gauge the trajectory of the future.
Black-America I suspect has lost the most wealth it has ever sense the end of Reconstruction. I'm talking not about Baby Boomers but of Gen X on down. It may have well gone--monetarily--the opposite direction that the end of Apartheid in South Africa took for blacks. I don't know, I haven't seen the two compared.
There still exists a lot of wealth in Black-America, if for no other reason than the strength of the dollar around the world and the level of per capita income within both the national average and Black-American average.
That wealth could be prudently invested abroad to grow. It could be invested in key locations in Africa. And a more global outlook (not necessarily pan-African) would benefit Black-Americans in an increasingly global market.
White-Americans already heavily invest in areas of Brazil (some areas of Africa--like I think Nigerian oil, or maybe that's the Brits?) and other parts of the globe. They have casinos in Macau and make more money there than in Las Vegas.
Buying land and/or building a home or commercial property in Angola or Botswana can potentially be a good thing.
I'm old enough to see that my black father complains about the same things he did when I was a small child. Before I was born he was burdened with the American experience. His generation of blacks bought into the "just assimilate" and everything will go good story. Now they're pissed off they found out it was a lie.
There are lies after lies in the United States. I bought into the lies. Did what you're supposedly supposed to do. None of it really worked (with a small exception to me lifting weights and exercising--my own body I controlled the greater destiny over). In some ways I was blessed for that. Because I awoken more and more from the matrix and began to see things more clearly for what they were. The hustles and lies. And I don't have my heart and mind chained to the United States. I'm using the USofA the way it used me and looking for the future. And my future is tied to outside of the United States: India, Brazil, Africa etc.
When the young blacks of today wake up 40 or 50 years from now still complaining about the same damned thing. Having enslaved their hearts and minds to the horns and tail of the United States. I'll be set and living in peace and contentment.
The question I have, after reading all the lies in the Health and Beauty section in the thread on obese women, is who is the figurative "fat American woman" in this fiasco of the Trayvon vs Zimmerman case, the black side or the white side?
Both sides have closed ranks "politically" to make either Trayvon or Zimmerman look like the innocent little "fat woman" that we all must pamper in the story. Neither are seeing both for who they were. And neither side even sees themselves, accurately reflected in the mirror.
Nonetheless, Black-Americans could do far worse than investing in certain areas of the African continent.
You're depiction of all of Africa is not necessarily accurate. There are urban areas of the United States arguably worse to live in and rear children in than certain areas of Africa.
Investing in Africa as part of a diversified portfolio is a lot different than picking up and moving to Africa. One thing Akon overlooks is that Africans aren't too keen on the return of Diaspora Blacks.
LOL The comments from "celebs" just get dumber and dumber. I guess this dope doesnt know much about Africa today. But please, take your own advice and move. And leave behind all the money youve made from white people/Americans. We'll see how long you last.
I guess he forgot about where the slavery of blacks started as well.
You may need to convert to Islam or die, in some places in Africa.
Originally Posted by FKD19124
whats amazing is that actual black immigrants from Africa don't want anything to do with African-Americans. And the African Americans that do go back to Africa are frowned upon there.
People can move to Africa if they want and if the can't afford it maybe Akon will send money or is he just another one of those hollywood idiots spouting off.
Why do Africans frown upon African Americans going to live in Africa?
Investing in Africa as part of a diversified portfolio is a lot different than picking up and moving to Africa. One thing Akon overlooks is that Africans aren't too keen on the return of Diaspora Blacks.
Neither were the Palestinians about the Jews.
But you are right about just picking up and moving to Africa. I took his statements to be one motivated from his emotions over the Zimmerman thing (venting), as well as a expressing a need to change attitudes about black people's investment in the USofA.
Most black people can't pick up and move to Africa anyways. But even if some did so the h_ll what. Africans come to Europe and USofA and don't want doors slammed in their faces. Likewise, Black-Americans are free to move where they wish. But I understand ethnic Black-Americans often can be aggressive and loud in how they deal with others. I'm sure quite a number of the Black-American females from the "hood" would be something horrible for black Africans. I don't blame them. Those young women can be loud, obnoxious, and violent at the drop of a pin.
My black father is upset over Zimmerman getting off.
But I was reared Black-American. The problem is that my father--although he entered the Army and was dishonorably discharged and eventually retired as a U.S. Federal agent--started off life at a severe disadvantage. His parents came from Mississippi during the Great Migration. And they came academically disadvantage to the North from being rural sharecroppers in the South. Which was no problem given the factory jobs in Northern cities like Milwaukee were booming. However, these people came Northward very psychologically damaged from slavery and Jim Crow in the South. People like my black grandfather actually knew blacks that lived through slavery as slaves.
And I know this comparing the white side of my family that came from Germany and moved into the Midwest like Wisconsin and Minnesota (not the South) and weren't slaves of recent times (they may have been during ancient Rome). The two mentalities were black and white in difference. The experiences of my white grandparents were much different than my black grandparents (emotionally and psychologically--although due to the Great Depression all of them experienced material poverty).
But when the black families started crumbling after the 1960s or '70s then things started plummeting worse in many ways for Black-Americans.
My point here is that the USofA has not turned out well as an experience for a lot of people reared Black-American. For some it has been a curse.
LOL The comments from "celebs" just get dumber and dumber. I guess this dope doesnt know much about Africa today. But please, take your own advice and move. And leave behind all the money youve made from white people/Americans. We'll see how long you last.
I guess he forgot about where the slavery of blacks started as well.
I'd love to see him try it. He could go to the Sudan, Congo, Somalia, or any of the other nations south of the Sahara. Unless he converts to Islam, he won't be very welcomed in some of those areas. If he joins with the wrong group, an opposing group may be asking him if he wants "long sleeve or short sleeve" so they know where on his arm to hack with the knife. Sure, his money will get him far, so long as the people there allow him to have his money. If he goes to north Africa, he'll encounter some real racism and could potentially get captured and sold into slavery by arabs.
I'd love to see him try it. He could go to the Sudan, Congo, Somalia, or any of the other nations south of the Sahara. Unless he converts to Islam, he won't be very welcomed in some of those areas. If he joins with the wrong group, an opposing group may be asking him if he wants "long sleeve or short sleeve" so they know where on his arm to hack with the knife. Sure, his money will get him far, so long as the people there allow him to have his money. If he goes to north Africa, he'll encounter some real racism and could potentially get captured and sold into slavery by arabs.
yup indeed he would encounter most of what you mention above, he doesn't realize that though. Go back to the motherland, see how good it is. I would rather run the NYC marathon on a daily basis in 100 degree weather with a case of Dysentery then live in any of the places you mentioned above.
Anyone want to mention any country in Sub Saharan Africa besides South Africa that you could deem a Jewel? I'll wait.....
Racism still exists in the US, anyone who thinks it ended with the Obama election is either really naive or really stupid. A shining example of that is the birther movement, the fact theat websites like stormfront exist and some of the comments in C-D.
Racism will always exist in some form, but it is not mainstream. There are Whites who hate Blacks simply because the color of their skin. But there are Blacks who hate Whites, simply because the color of their skin. The majority of Americans don't fall into these catagories IMHO, so I'm not sure why it's so important to point out this small fringe group of individuals as if they actually carry any real influence on the American public. Why even legitimize them by recognizing them and give them the attention they seek?
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