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Old 07-21-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Is it possible to even have a data base that big to record all that info on every driver?
Easily.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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Is it possible to even have a data base that big to record all that info on every driver?
Yeah storage is very cheap. You have to understand information is very valuable. It is a small cost for big returns.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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Yeah storage is very cheap. You have to understand information is very valuable. It is a small cost for big returns.
The real limitation on the power of the state is not the amount of data but the number of human interpreters of it they need to employ and pay (and trust)...that's the only real reason we still have any freedom at all.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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The real limitation on the power of the state is not the amount of data but the number of human interpreters of it they need to employ and pay (and trust)...that's the only real reason we still have any freedom at all.
Well with AI and other tech that is a nominal restraint.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Well with AI and other tech that is a nominal restraint.
It's certainly not as encouraging as it ought to be.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Agreed. Something should be done.
How about we start electing to public office people committed to the expansion of personal liberty and the repeal of those laws and activities which curtail personal liberty?

Of course then we have to find candidates who were clear on the concept.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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The real limitation on the power of the state is not the amount of data but the number of human interpreters of it they need to employ and pay (and trust)...that's the only real reason we still have any freedom at all.
Massive databases and massive supercomputers to run the correlations. Hell, if Google can do it, what makes you think the Government cant? Or if they cant, what makes you think they wouldn't force Google to do it for them, promising a split of the ad revenue?

Seriously, in his great book on Google In The Plex Steven Levy reports on Google's support of Obama in 2008 and the appointments of a few Google employees to work for the Obama Administration. Who knows what they may be doing there?
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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How about we start electing to public office people committed to the expansion of personal liberty and the repeal of those laws and activities which curtail personal liberty?

Of course then we have to find candidates who were clear on the concept.
Well between this.
Who owns Scytl? George Soros isn’t in the voting machines, but the intelligence community is
and this.
NSA Spying On – and Blackmailing - Washington's Blog

Good Luck with that.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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Massive databases and massive supercomputers to run the correlations. Hell, if Google can do it, what makes you think the Government cant? Or if they cant, what makes you think they wouldn't force Google to do it for them, promising a split of the ad revenue?
Yes but they still have to have someone to write the IT programs, at a minimum, and someone to read the reports and issue orders on the basis of them. That is some comfort, although it's far from reassuring.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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Yes but they still have to have someone to write the IT programs, at a minimum, and someone to read the reports and issue orders on the basis of them. That is some comfort, although it's far from reassuring.
Just because real humans are involved doesn't mean real humans are being protected. Tech is just a tool. It is neither bad nor good.
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