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Old 07-17-2013, 10:29 PM
 
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Obama doesn't really care much about courts or the Constitution and neither do his cult followers. He should be purged from office ASAP.

"A third federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that President Obama violated the Constitution last year when he made recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board, adding more weight to the case as it goes before the Supreme Court in the justices’ next session.
The Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, said that the president can only make recess appointments after Congress has adjourned “sine die,” which in modern times has meant when it breaks at the end of each year.That ruling rejects Mr. Obama’s own interpretation that he can make appointments whenever he deems the Senate to be unable to give him “advice and consent” on his nominees.

Read more: Third court overturns Obama recess appointments - Washington Times
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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Obama doesn't really care much about courts or the Constitution and neither do his cult followers. He should be purged from office ASAP.
Three courts making the same decision on the same issue that has already been slated to SCOTUS doesn't make it worse, it just makes it a waste of time.

And a court can't "purge" him so it appears that you are inciting violence.
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:19 PM
 
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Inciting violence? LOL
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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Obama doesn't really care much about courts or the Constitution and neither do his cult followers. He should be purged from office ASAP.

"A third federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that President Obama violated the Constitution last year when he made recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board, adding more weight to the case as it goes before the Supreme Court in the justices’ next session.
The Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, said that the president can only make recess appointments after Congress has adjourned “sine die,” which in modern times has meant when it breaks at the end of each year.That ruling rejects Mr. Obama’s own interpretation that he can make appointments whenever he deems the Senate to be unable to give him “advice and consent” on his nominees.

Read more: Third court overturns Obama recess appointments - Washington Times
Funny, yesterday you were posting on the "Obama Imperial Presidency" thread that those of us pointing out that the other branches of government, the legislature and the judiciary, were Obama apologists, trying to negate our point. Then you go and START a thread that supports our point that there is no Imperial Presidency, because the judicial branch of the government has been reining in Obama's administration. Thank you!
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:54 AM
 
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Funny, yesterday you were posting on the "Obama Imperial Presidency" thread that those of us pointing out that the other branches of government, the legislature and the judiciary, were Obama apologists, trying to negate our point. Then you go and START a thread that supports our point that there is no Imperial Presidency, because the judicial branch of the government has been reining in Obama's administration. Thank you!
Wait a second...If other branches have to "reign in" the Obama admin, that would mean that they ARE Imperial wouldn't it? That they have to be constantly over ruled and reigned in? I would think so by the definition of Imperial Presidency.
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:01 AM
 
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Obama doesn't really care much about courts or the Constitution and neither do his cult followers. He should be purged from office ASAP.

"A third federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that President Obama violated the Constitution last year when he made recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board, adding more weight to the case as it goes before the Supreme Court in the justices’ next session.
The Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, said that the president can only make recess appointments after Congress has adjourned “sine die,” which in modern times has meant when it breaks at the end of each year.That ruling rejects Mr. Obama’s own interpretation that he can make appointments whenever he deems the Senate to be unable to give him “advice and consent” on his nominees.

Read more: Third court overturns Obama recess appointments - Washington Times
And the dems wonder why Republicans are engaging in push-back against any further Obama admin appointments?
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:02 AM
 
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Wait a second...If other branches have to "reign in" the Obama admin, that would mean that they ARE Imperial wouldn't it? That they have to be constantly over ruled and reigned in? I would think so by the definition of Imperial Presidency.
No, that would mean that our government, with its system of balances, is working the way it was designed to. All three branches struggle against one another, reining each other in. It's the way the system is designed, so that neither the executive branch, or the legislative branch, or the judicial branch, gets too powerful. The only time that the system of balances has been significantly disrupted was during the Civil War when Lincoln used his war powers to enforce his executive authority. Because half the country wasn't involved in the federal government at the time, and because he specifically sidelined the judiciary (even threatening to imprison Scotus and more particularly Taney), Lincoln comes the closest to an Imperial Presidency. But Lincoln did not intend to hold on to those powers. After Lincoln's death, Johnson received the blowback from Congress, where Congress used the system of balances to take back the powers Lincoln had usurped. Even Grant, who had a certain amount of cachet as a war hero, was stymied by the Congressional determination to not allow a President the level of authority Lincoln had enjoyed.
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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Obama doesn't really care much about courts or the Constitution and neither do his cult followers. He should be purged from office ASAP.

"A third federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that President Obama violated the Constitution last year when he made recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board, adding more weight to the case as it goes before the Supreme Court in the justices’ next session.
The Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, said that the president can only make recess appointments after Congress has adjourned “sine die,” which in modern times has meant when it breaks at the end of each year.That ruling rejects Mr. Obama’s own interpretation that he can make appointments whenever he deems the Senate to be unable to give him “advice and consent” on his nominees.

Read more: Third court overturns Obama recess appointments - Washington Times
Impeach! Impeach!
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:23 AM
 
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No, that would mean that our government, with its system of balances, is working the way it was designed to. All three branches struggle against one another, reining each other in. It's the way the system is designed, so that neither the executive branch, or the legislative branch, or the judicial branch, gets too powerful. The only time that the system of balances has been significantly disrupted was during the Civil War when Lincoln used his war powers to enforce his executive authority. Because half the country wasn't involved in the federal government at the time, and because he specifically sidelined the judiciary (even threatening to imprison Scotus and more particularly Taney), Lincoln comes the closest to an Imperial Presidency. But Lincoln did not intend to hold on to those powers. After Lincoln's death, Johnson received the blowback from Congress, where Congress used the system of balances to take back the powers Lincoln had usurped. Even Grant, who had a certain amount of cachet as a war hero, was stymied by the Congressional determination to not allow a President the level of authority Lincoln had enjoyed.
I would say this POTUS meets the definition perfectly:

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Arguments that the United States President has become an imperial presidency are:
  • As staff numbers increased, many people were appointed who held personal loyalty to the person holding the office of president, and who were not subject to outside approval or control.
  • A range of new advisory bodies developed around the presidency, many of which complemented (critics suggest rivaled) the main cabinet departments, with the cabinet declining in influence. The National Security Council and the Office of Management and Budget are prime examples.
  • The Senate does not "advise and consent to" appointments to the Executive Office of the President (with only a handful of exceptions), as it does with cabinet appointments. A corollary of this is that EOP personnel may act independent of, without regard for, and without accountability to Congress.
  • The Presidency relies on powers that exceed the Constitution. The extent of foreign policy and war powers of the Presidency are questioned. Also the extent of Presidential secrecy is questioned. See The Imperial Presidency (book).
  • The plebiscitary Presidency is a Presidency that is accountable only during elections or impeachment rather than daily to the Congress, the press and the public. This has been considered evidence of an Imperial Presidency.

Imperial Presidency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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Three courts making the same decision on the same issue that has already been slated to SCOTUS doesn't make it worse, it just makes it a waste of time.

And a court can't "purge" him so it appears that you are inciting violence.
Just proving that he's an idiot. That'll be his legacy lol
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