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Old 07-20-2013, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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One of the things that bothers me about the verdict in the Zimmerman trial is that it establishes a precedent of vigilantism.

The police already have too much power and make too many mistakes when it comes to profiling and sometimes shooting innocent people to death.

They also have too much power to provoke a confrontation, and then when a person in any way "resists" or questions their authority to beat that person to a pulp, or even kill them as in the case of the young homeless man they savagely beat to death.

Now, if private citizens start taking this upon themselves, men who are wearing no badge, are not law enforcement, and start expecting other citizens in their neighborhood to answer to them, to state their business, explain to them why they are where they are---then, we've got even more problems.
That's been established multiple times over in several backward States.

 
Old 07-20-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Did Obama have "Lean" or "Purple" drank 30 years ago, if he could have been Trayvon?

I think it's a travesty to talk about honoring Trayvon's legacy, when he was into drugs, MMA street fighting, "Lean", robbery and under age girl porn. Why doesn't the Left want to talk about that?

MSM refuses to focus on any of the information that was hidden during Discovery. Perhaps these Sanctions that O'Mara has brought to the State will illuminate these facts.
Who knows? Did you drink alcohol 30 years ago? Or smoke a joint? OR . . pick your poison.

There are those who are ONLY able to discuss Trayvon's less than finer points. I wonder - do any of those people know anything good about him as a human being? Or can they just not bring themselves to post any, even one, kind word about a dead teen-ager?

Because I don't see any balance in their statements. Ever.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 02:46 PM
 
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That's been established multiple times over in several backward States.
You mean the abuse of police power, or private citizens taking the law into their own hands? Or both?
 
Old 07-20-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
The police already have too much power and make too many mistakes when it comes to profiling and sometimes shooting innocent people to death.

They also have too much power to provoke a confrontation, and then when a person in any way "resists" or questions their authority to beat that person to a pulp, or even kill them as in the case of the young homeless man they savagely beat to death.
I have a feeling you'd probably agree with this wackadoo:

State Rep.: ‘Maybe The Police Are Killing Some Of These Kids’ « CBS Chicago


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An Illinois state representative has publicly raised the possibility that Chicago police officers might be the ones responsible for the unsolved murders of black youths in Chicago.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Who knows? Did you drink alcohol 30 years ago? Or smoke a joint? OR . . pick your poison.

There are those who are ONLY able to discuss Trayvon's less than finer points. I wonder - do any of those people know anything good about him as a human being? Or can they just not bring themselves to post any, even one, kind word about a dead teen-ager?

Because I don't see any balance in their statements. Ever.
Thank you for pointing that out.

I have a feeling that there are a lot of posters on this thread who even now may be using their poison of choice ---say alcohol. Unless we condemn everyone in the nation who uses a drug, and alcohol is a drug, then why condemn a 17-year-old teen who was experimenting with drugs in the way that an awful lot of teens and as you point out, most of the people on here, have done in their own lives?

Zimmerman was on prescription psychotropic drugs. They are mind and mood-altering as well.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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I have a feeling you'd probably agree with this wackadoo:

State Rep.: ‘Maybe The Police Are Killing Some Of These Kids’ « CBS Chicago




No, but there are instances of the police going way over board. I have to admit, even as a white woman, if a police car is behind me in traffic, I don't feel safer, I feel anxiety, that he might be about to pull me over for some minor traffic violation. But I know that's pretty common.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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Not the first time someone got away with murder and it won't be the last.
He didn't murder anyone!

 
Old 07-20-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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Except in the predictable fashion of MSM - they NEVER bring up assault and self-defense. It is as though TM was skipping through the tulips, and not that he was beating the crap out of GZ.

The only people who could actually make such a dumb assessment are those commenting who have not read the transcripts and didn't listen to all the testimony at the trial.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Thank you for pointing that out.

I have a feeling that there are a lot of posters on this thread who even now may be using their poison of choice ---say alcohol. Unless we condemn everyone in the nation who uses a drug, and alcohol is a drug, then why condemn a 17-year-old teen who was experimenting with drugs in the way that an awful lot of teens and as you point out, most of the people on here, have done in their own lives?

Zimmerman was on prescription psychotropic drugs. They are mind and mood-altering as well.
Experimenting would be trying it a couple of times.

TM was getting high twice a week. That's a problem. (And I'm sure the amount was rounded down to something thought to be "acceptable".)
 
Old 07-20-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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Who knows? Did you drink alcohol 30 years ago? Or smoke a joint? OR . . pick your poison.

There are those who are ONLY able to discuss Trayvon's less than finer points. I wonder - do any of those people know anything good about him as a human being? Or can they just not bring themselves to post any, even one, kind word about a dead teen-ager?

Because I don't see any balance in their statements. Ever.
TM's parents, MSM, et al, have already characterized TM as an innocent child.

Do you realize that O'Mara filed SIX Sanctions against the State of Florida for HIDING information in Discovery? You can gloss over that all day long. If these things had not been hidden, the American people would have a whole different outlook on this case. It was hidden on purpose to deceive and to win a case.

If Obama doesn't know any of those facts, he sure might have an embarrassing and rude awakening once some people get fed up with the cotton candy trial coverage. Or maybe not, we are at a point in history where there is no honest accountability.

The reason this information needs to be brought out is that it is a prime example that we are talking about the wrong issue here.
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