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Old 07-18-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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At some point. You have to wonder if these "conservatives" are joking or are they that hypocritical?

Knowing damn well if they were minding their business like "god fearing Americans" and some man started harassing them. They wouldn't run away. They would say it was their constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Each and every NRA carry member would say if Zimmerman came up to them in a menacing manner. They would swing on him. Each and every one.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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At some point. You have to wonder if these "conservatives" are joking or are they that hypocritical?

Knowing damn well if they were minding their business like "god fearing Americans" and some man started harassing them. They wouldn't run away. They would say it was their constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Each and every NRA carry member would say if Zimmerman came up to them in a menacing manner. They would swing on him. Each and every one.
what 'menacing manner'? be specific.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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so personal testimonies are inherently unreliable and should not be allowed? that seems to be what you're saying.
Uh, maybe you need to re-read my post.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:10 PM
 
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what 'menacing manner'? be specific.
If someone is following you in a secluded area and begins coming straight at you without identifying themselves, the first though isn't going to be, "this guy seems harmless, I wonder what kind of help he needs?"
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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If someone is following you in a secluded area and begins coming straight at you without identifying themselves, the first though isn't going to be, "this guy seems harmless, I wonder what kind of help he needs?"
how is walking toward me supposed to be 'menacing'?
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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Common sense is don't engage total strangers if at all possible. Try to seek safety of a public place and call police if you are believe someone is trying to harm you. You don't know what intent the other person has. They may have a gun. There may be multiple attackers that you don't see.
Remember when we were growing up and our parents told us don't talk to strangers? There was a good reason for that and the same basic principal still applies.
If someone is trying to harm me, i'll call the cops.

I'm not calling the cops just because i think someone is following me.
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someone wasn't paying attention
I don't really buy it regardless. How far away was he and if he knew so much, why doesn't he know for sure who was screaming for help?

Like i said..no witnesses.

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Old 07-18-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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Uh, maybe you need to re-read my post.
i read it twice more, and it still comes across the same way. uh, maybe need to re-write it.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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I have read and been somewhat dismayed at the contentions of many liberals in "Zimmerman case". It appears as though the theme has been this-

"Zimmerman was FOLLOWING Martin, therefore he DESERVED to be attacked. In that regard, the FOLLOWING was the agressive act and that "stand your ground" does not apply".

So the question is:

If you are walking down a crowded urban street for several blocks, and someone ten feet in front of you "thinks" that you are following them, are they (under liberal law) allowed to beat you to death? I just want to get these "rules" straight, if and when the situation arises.
In that case, no.

However, if you're creeping behind them in your car, they notice you and run to somewhere you can't drive, and you then jump out of your car and chase after them? Yes, that's worth a beating. In this very different case, you have signaled that you wish to harm them.

Beat to death? No, but if you get hit once and crack your skull on the concrete, well, that's sad, but your own fault.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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According to liberals, following constitutes provocation sufficient to claim SYG. But SYG should be repealed at the same time, because it makes claiming provocation too easy to do untruthfully and get away with.

But following is perfectly legal, end of story, no matter what the moonbats think.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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According to liberals, following constitutes provocation sufficient to claim SYG. But SYG should be repealed at the same time, because it makes claiming provocation too easy to do untruthfully and get away with.
I don't know what liberals you're talking about, but i've got no problem with SYG.

It should in theory work fairly well so long as the person looking to apply it isn't stupid or overzealous.
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