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This is an argument that comes up anytime there is a roller coaster or thrill ride death. About half the time it is an expected failure, other times it is rider error (unbuckling from a ride, getting out of the car, chewing gum) and even more rarely employee neglect. As park goers, you accept SOME risk. The same as going to a sports event. There are warning signs at every ride saying do not go on and yet some people do. I remember one time my mother went on Mission: Space (after they added green team training) and she went on Orange (as close to the original version as there is) with my brother and I. Despite our warnings and constant warnings on the line and our knowledge of her getting motion sick on some rides she went on. Sure enough she got sick. Yet our father got mad at us because she got sick from it.
These thrill rides do not exist without real risks and dangers. I go on realizing that there can be dangers by going on but if I knew I wouldn't be safe on a ride, I would not go on it. And I love rides but I know that say Disneyland's Materhorn is uncomfortable, Darien Lake's Viper and Predator are too rough, Cedar Point's Mantis is harsh on private parts and there are others in similar conditions that I cannot do.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
Roller coasters - I HATE them...why someone pays good money to feel like they are about to die? Not to be too cynical.. I guess she had the ultimate thrill of her life...it's horrible...one moment your adrenaline is pumping like crazy - the next moment you are in mid air knowing your life is over. Western culture is spoiled...While others in the world struggle to stay alive - their over fed thrill seeking counter parts want to toy with death and the feeling of death..
I go for the thrill. I am kind of afraid of heights (not as much as brother who wouldn't even do a Ferris wheel.) On MOST rides you are stapled in to the seat by the restraint whether it is a roller coaster, tower ride or even a "spin-and-spew" style ride. For me screaming on a roller coaster is letting go of the stress of my life, the same way people use rock shows, working out or screaming at referees at sporting events.
Are we spoiled because we can ride roller coasters, not really. I mean just because we can don't mean we HAVE to. You can chose not to go and the line will be shorter for people like me who enjoy them. Nobody is forcing you to go, except maybe significant other and family.
This woman that got killed, Have they determined that she spoke and read THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ? Perhaps she could not read the signs that say stay in your seat etc.
This woman that got killed, Have they determined that she spoke and read THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ? Perhaps she could not read the signs that say stay in your seat etc.
This woman that got killed, Have they determined that she spoke and read THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ? Perhaps she could not read the signs that say stay in your seat etc.
Many places have also started to do SPANISH spiels even signage as well as traditional English spiels and signage we are use. Now if she and the rest of her party didn't understand either language, I MAY see your point.
Many places have also started to do SPANISH spiels even signage as well as traditional English spiels and signage we are use. Now if she and the rest of her party didn't understand either language, I MAY see your point.
This woman that got killed, Have they determined that she spoke and read THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ? Perhaps she could not read the signs that say stay in your seat etc.
"Carmen Brown said she witnessed the fall, adding that she heard Esparza express concern about whether she was properly secured before the ride began.
Brown claimed she overheard Esparza tell the employee that she "only heard one click," to which the employee replied that it was "OK, if you heard it click."
"Carmen Brown said she witnessed the fall, adding that she heard Esparza express concern about whether she was properly secured before the ride began.
Brown claimed she overheard Esparza tell the employee that she "only heard one click," to which the employee replied that it was "OK, if you heard it click."
In what language did this conversation take place - for the record?
In what language did this conversation take place - for the record?
Or if the ride op heard it. I know I was once in a similar situation. My brother forgot to lower his arm and neck restraint on the coaster at the New York, New York Hotel in Las Vegas. The ride op had to unlock the car and my lap bar was not as tight as it should have been similar to this situation but unlike the Giant's lock issue, it was locked and stayed lock. It just caught me during air time and brought me down butt first into the crease of the seat.
From the sound of it, it hit the first click and it wouldn't really staple in further but yet she wasn't in enough. I thought that most of these t-bar rides also have lapbelts as a pokayoke/fail-safe in case the lap bar fails like it sounds like happened. The language barrier COULD be an issue and over time more and more parks have adapted to this. However if a group of guest cannot speak the language, they should mention it to a ride op as soon as possible so they can be best served. If you are vigilante in knowing issues, you can avert many issues like this. And no, I am not saying all ride ops need to be bilingual, maybe one per platform.
I feel sorry for her kids who witnessed the tragedy. That said, can you imagine what would have happened had she been denied a seat on the ride because of her size (experts claimed they're built to withstand 180 lbs)? They need signs.
We had a tragic case locally a couple of years ago in which a patron with no legs fell out of his restraint. Can you imagine a pimply-faced kid attendant arguing with an ex-military patron who'd lost his legs in the war and telling him he couldn't get on?? Signs!
Exactly. Last time I was at a Six Flags there were huge people trying to squeeze into rides they couldn't squeeze into and they had to come back down --- all disappointed.
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