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Old 07-23-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'm so glad I live in California. Haven't had a speeding ticket since 1997, and not for lack of trying.
I live here too, but this article is wrong. California fines are up to 4X the national average. We are the most expensive state to get a ticket in.

Brown: Expensive traffic fines are getting out of hand » Ventura County Star

A speeding ticket here averages $400.

But there will come a point, he warned, when fines become disproportionately high.
"A $1,000 offense often becomes a $3,700 liability," he wrote. "Those who broke the law should be fairly punished for their transgressions, but not be subject to ever-increasing costs that are more properly the responsibility of the public at large."

In Ventura County, for instance, the base fine for driving from 15 mph over the speed limit is $70. But the penalty assessment is $210, bringing the total amount a violator must pay to $280.

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/traffic-ticket-fines-and-penalties.php


My wife stopped in the loading zone to pick-up our son in front of a hospital. We received a bogus ticket in the mail for "parking" in a red zone (she stopped for 5 seconds and never parked) for $90.

Los Angeles county has more than 1MILLION outstanding warrants.

Penalty assessments raise a significant amount of revenue for counties. Court records show that 136,000 traffic citations were issued in Ventura County last year, and 154,000 in 2009.

We live in a state that is trying to tax and fine their way out of bankruptcy, and even Gov. Moonbeam recognizes that it has gone too far.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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I live here too, but this article is wrong. California fines are up to 4X the national average. We are the most expensive state to get a ticket in.

Brown: Expensive traffic fines are getting out of hand » Ventura County Star

A speeding ticket here averages $400.

But there will come a point, he warned, when fines become disproportionately high.
"A $1,000 offense often becomes a $3,700 liability," he wrote. "Those who broke the law should be fairly punished for their transgressions, but not be subject to ever-increasing costs that are more properly the responsibility of the public at large."

In Ventura County, for instance, the base fine for driving from 15 mph over the speed limit is $70. But the penalty assessment is $210, bringing the total amount a violator must pay to $280.

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/traffic-ticket-fines-and-penalties.php


My wife stopped in the loading zone to pick-up our son in front of a hospital. We received a bogus ticket in the mail for "parking" in a red zone (she stopped for 5 seconds and never parked) for $90.

Los Angeles county has more than 1MILLION outstanding warrants.

Penalty assessments raise a significant amount of revenue for counties. Court records show that 136,000 traffic citations were issued in Ventura County last year, and 154,000 in 2009.

We live in a state that is trying to tax and fine their way out of bankruptcy, and even Gov. Moonbeam recognizes that it has gone too far.
And all it serves to do is breed hostility to law enforcement. People who have never committed a crime in their lives paying exorbitant fines for speeding or parking violations is not only outrageous, but incredibly damaging to the esteem to which local governments are held.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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Drive the speed limit? Are you nuts? It's an arbitrary number that doesn't take into account driver experience or skill, vehicle capabilities and characteristics, or moment to moment traffic situations. It's a 'one size fits all' approach that is flawed from the get go. We all know the primary reason a speed limit is set, which is normally too low, is to act as a source of revenue generation. Safety? Nope, complete lie.

So I have a better idea. Take those worthless revenue collectors, ie traffic cops, and put them to work doing something worthwhile, like fighting crime. Or perhaps fire them, so they don't need to camp out on speed trap duty, to pay for their position in the first place.
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