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Before its ratification the Constitution was amended ten times (the Bill of Rights).
Actually the Bill of Rights was a promise made to obtain ratification, that is why they are amendments.
I will accept FDR's version, before he went mad, of the proper role of the federal government.
FDR speaking on prohibition:
"As a matter of fact and law, the governing rights of the States are all of those which have not been
surrendered to the National Government by the Constitution or its amendments. Wisely or unwisely,
people know that under the Eighteenth Amendment Congress has been given the right to legislate on this particular subject, but this is not the case in the matter of a great number of other vital problems of government, such as the conduct of public utilities, of banks, of insurance, of business, of agriculture, of education, of social welfare and of a dozen other important features. In these, Washington must not be encouraged to interfere." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1930
Actually the Bill of Rights was a promise made to obtain ratification, that is why they are amendments.
I will accept FDR's version, before he went mad, of the proper role of the federal government.
FDR speaking on prohibition:
"As a matter of fact and law, the governing rights of the States are all of those which have not been
surrendered to the National Government by the Constitution or its amendments. Wisely or unwisely,
people know that under the Eighteenth Amendment Congress has been given the right to legislate on this particular subject, but this is not the case in the matter of a great number of other vital problems of government, such as the conduct of public utilities, of banks, of insurance, of business, of agriculture, of education, of social welfare and of a dozen other important features. In these, Washington must not be encouraged to interfere." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1930
Nevertheless, the original was changed. Any amendment is a change to the original or the previously amended document.
Greg this is very accurate. Liberal/Libertarian should be fairly interchangeable terms.
Unfortunately the Bachmann led brigade hijacked the term Libertarian to somehow apply it to facism!
The reason I must refer to myself as libertarian is the socialists/fascists hijacked the term liberal.
As always, there are people that mix up Central or Federal government with all government. I believe when most people are saying they want a smaller government, they mean smaller Federal government. They don't want the Feds controlling them or their states except by what's permitted in the Constitution. They want to keep their states distinct from one another and control politicians and issues from the voting booth.
You live in a place like California and you think the state government is an intrusive overregulated overtaxed pain in the butt, you just move to another state. That's why all of those lefty whiners are in Austin, Texas now. They ran to escape California and now they are trying to turn Texas into California. They can't help themselves.
You hear a lot folks, mostly conservatives and teabaggers, about how far we've strayed from our Founding Fathers and the Constitution; how this has affected how big our govt has become.
But what is a limited govt? How small does it have to be?
Can someone give me specifics?
Like.... Should the size of the govt be a certain % of our GDP?
Does it mean public education is unconstitutional?
Should we never have put a man on the moon?
Should we not regulate motor vehicles?
Lastly, why do you think or perceive the Constitution is some unchanging document or that we've strayed far from? It was written when we had a few million people and were mostly an agrarian society.
Personally, I think it is all rhetoric by politicians and those who subscribe to their ideology. I think people use this phrase so they can arbitrarily pick and choose what a govt function should be and use the Constitution to support their own personal views. And that is fine is true, but then why hide under that pretense?
Why don't you just the Constitution and find out for yourself.
If you want to talk about sexual perversions, find another forum.
You hear a lot folks, mostly conservatives and teabaggers, about how far we've strayed from our Founding Fathers and the Constitution; how this has affected how big our govt has become.
But what is a limited govt? How small does it have to be?
Can someone give me specifics?
Like.... Should the size of the govt be a certain % of our GDP?
Does it mean public education is unconstitutional?
Should we never have put a man on the moon?
Should we not regulate motor vehicles?
Lastly, why do you think or perceive the Constitution is some unchanging document or that we've strayed far from? It was written when we had a few million people and were mostly an agrarian society.
Personally, I think it is all rhetoric by politicians and those who subscribe to their ideology. I think people use this phrase so they can arbitrarily pick and choose what a govt function should be and use the Constitution to support their own personal views. And that is fine is true, but then why hide under that pretense?
You could not even get the first sentence of you nonsense written before making your agenda clear by evoking inflammatory speech like "teabagger".
You are a stereotypical liberal who wants to twist every word to every law to your own meaning. You want to hide behind the Constitution when it supports you and you seek to change the meaning of the words when it does not.
You do not give a damn about the Constitution or what it represents, if you did you would already have the answers to your questions because you would have read it, and the writings of Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, and the rest of the men who wrote papers explaining the reasons it was constructed the way it was. The size of government is simply limited by 10th amendment, a very simple and eloquent statement that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Do you really think the fundamental relationship between the Federal Government changes based on wheatear the occupation of the people are farmers or write computer code? The Constitution is the cornerstone of the Republic. It protects the individual from the tyranny that government inevitably always becomes.
The attacks we see on the Constitution today are a result of the tyranny our government has become.
The words of the Constitution bear little resemblance to the government that infringes on every right the Constitution guarantees.
The government has broken its contract with the people, and so it attacks the Constitution as if it were the problem instead of the criminals who after swearing to uphold it; have violated the Supreme Law of the Land.
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