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Old 07-26-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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You bath children you are just babysitting for? You don't stare at them while they nap but sit in the same room? YOu follow them into the bathroom. Yep you are definitely traumatizing these kids. CPS would not agree with any of your techniques. If I found out some babysitter was with them in the bathtub you would be jailed if not injured.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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Me too, and in certain instances there are exceptions to the rule. And IMO rules go out the window at this point.
It's fine if you want to toss the rules out as a personal decision. That's what the teacher did, too. The business owner didn't make a personal decision, though. The business owner made a business decision. Because the business owner has more at risk than the teacher did.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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You bath children you are just babysitting for? You don't stare at them while they nap but sit in the same room? YOu follow them into the bathroom. Yep you are definitely traumatizing these kids. CPS would not agree with any of your techniques. If I found out some babysitter was with them in the bathtub you would be jailed if not injured.
You leave little children unattended in the bathtub???

https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-R...e-year-period/

You leave little children to climb up on toilets by themselves?

CPS would agree with all of my actions.

And the last time I was in the bathtub with a child I was about 3 years old myself, and my mother was bathing me and my brother at the same time.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You leave little children to climb up on toilets by themselves?
Harrier allowed the three and four year old children use the bathroom themselves, yes.

If they had an issue, they knew to call for Harrier and he would be within earshot in the next room.

What is the problem?

Isn't there a constitutional "right to privacy"?
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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Yes, I accompany the little ones to the bathroom. I don't stare at them while they go potty, and I don't stare at them while they nap. If the grilled cheese starts smoking, I remove the grilled cheese from the frying pan and the kids assemble another sandwich at the kitchen table. If they go outside to play, I am with them. If they take a bath, I'm with them. If I take them to the movies and they have to go to the bathroom, I go with them. I'm responsible for ensuring that NOTHING happens to them when their parents leave them with me, and it's a responsibility I take very seriously.
If you are with them if they are taking a bath or going to the rest room you aren't with the rest.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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you dont think the paying parents have or deserve a right to say whom cares for their children...?

blame the government that doesnt take much thought. Putting yourself in the shoes of the parents of those children, learning the lady left thier child napping to investigate a fire.

Those are not her children...the facility was not her home.

Her job one, is the safety of those kids...blame whom you wish, the parents and staff did the right, smart, and just thing---they fired her.

You hire her to care for your kids if you like.
I can see both sides of this. I think it is good that she took the initiative to put out the fire. However, I would feel uneasy with the fact that she smelled smoke and left sleeping children behind in another room to investigate the cause of the smoke.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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You leave little children unattended in the bathtub???

https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-R...e-year-period/

You leave little children to climb up on toilets by themselves?

CPS would agree with all of my actions.

And the last time I was in the bathtub with a child I was about 3 years old myself, and my mother was bathing me and my brother at the same time.
When I take my kids to a babysitter they don't need to be bathed. You take that upon yourself apparently. Climb up on toilets. I let kids climb trees. They are children not prisoners. Lord have mercy.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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I recall a teacher being fired at a Catholic school for getting pregnant yet not married. It was against the school's policy so people here justified it.

Now all of a sudden the school's policy no longer matters? Interesting.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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Something in an oven that is burning is not what you call a FIRE. How can it spread from a closed oven ? Whoever was responsible for the cooking is the one who should be fired. Did the teacher actually see flames coming from the stove? I think not
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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If you are with them if they are taking a bath or going to the rest room you aren't with the rest.
When they are pre-schoolers, I certainly am. It's not like we're talking about seventeen kids here. But your attacks on me are OFF-TOPIC.

This thread is about a teacher who left a room full of pre-schoolers unattended. The daycare center where she worked had a policy prohibiting leaving the children unattended. She violated that policy and lost her job. Most of you have posted diligently about how nothing happened. None of you have made an argument that such a policy is wrong. I suspect because the policy isn't wrong. Any parent has had incidents where little children have gotten into trouble when left unsupervised, even for a moment. You don't leave little ones alone. Not in bathtubs. Not in pools. Not in cars. Not in classrooms. While you may think you'll only be gone for a moment, there is always the chance that you'll be delayed. And it only takes moments for a tragedy to occur.
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