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Old 07-25-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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So what if she did? You think the lawyer's wife who was going to write a book didn't?
They all do but it's not right.

 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Which part surprised you?
None of it. What's the surprise? What's the issue?
 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach
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She is probably afraid for her life so she is back pedalng to keep from a revenge death.

If that were truly the case, then why would she agree to have her face shown to the public? Let alone even entertain the thought of doing so to begin with

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Old 07-25-2013, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Personal attack & a violation of TOS.
What about attacks on common decency? I understand there are double standards around here.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Functionally illiterate people should not serve on juries. Killing does not equate to murder.

Acquitting the man of the charge of murder means the evidence, or lack thereof, supports his claim of self defense, as shown by the preponderance of physical damage to GZ and the lack of corresponding physical damage to TM (excepting the gunshot).

Killing TM was not murder, if the jury acquitted GZ. In other words, TM was the aggressor, engaged in assault and attempted murder of GZ. You can’t have it both ways - either TM was unlawfully killed or he was killed in response to his felonious behavior.

If TM was NOT the aggressor and was hunted down and murdered by GZ, then where is the evidence? All the evidence presented supported GZ’s version, and didn’t support the prosecution’s version of the events. Eyewitness testimony has TM on top of GZ, pounding him. In fear for his life, he defended himself.

To make the victim into the perpetrator is hypocrisy and disingenuous. Shame on her and all who laud the felon as an innocent victim. And shame on those who use intimidation and racial baiting to hound anyone who doesn’t agree with their lynch mob mentality.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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It explains his lack of self-defense injuries. What did he do with his hands for 40 seconds while Trayvon supposedly pummeled him and banged his head on the ground---flutter them in the air?
Yes his hands were fluttering in the air with his gun. He was spraying bullets all over the place.

Or

He has his gun holstered.

What self defense injuries are you talking about? Broken nose, cut on the back of his head, scratches. Have you even followed this case? Have you even thought out my initial response. If a witness saw GZ asking him for help while TM was on top of him. And this witness didn't see GZ holding a gun at that point. Knowing this why would you say GZ pulled out his gun once he hit the floor. Why?
 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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I get the feeling many people wanted GZ to get to the point where he was almost unconscious before acting. I wonder if they would do that is they had been attacked?
If I as a woman had had a teenager attack me, I would have fought back physically, not shot the kid to death. I certainly would have tried to defend myself for more than 40 seconds.

Plus, Zimmerman KNEW help was on the way. He'd already called the police and he knew neighbors had called 911. He knew the kid wasn't a murderer or mugger, because Trayvon had asked him why he was following him.

Even if he was knocked into unconsciousness, he knew he'd be all right. The thing is he didn't want to get knocked unconscious. He knew then it would be another one of those ***s "who always get away."
 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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Yes his hands were fluttering in the air with his gun. He was spraying bullets all over the place.

Or

He has his gun holstered.

What self defense injuries are you talking about? Broken nose, cut on the back of his head, scratches. Have you even followed this case? Have you even thought out my initial response. If a witness saw GZ asking him for help while TM was on top of him. And this witness didn't see GZ holding a gun at that point. Knowing this why would you say GZ pulled out his gun once he hit the floor. Why?
I never said he pulled the gun out right away. I believe he started trying to almost right away. The gun was not immediately accessible to Zimmerman. He said so himself.

None of those are self-defense injuries. My question still stands: what was Zimmerman doing with his hands to defend himself during those 40 seconds?

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Old 07-25-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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This thread was originally posted earlier in the True Crime along with the other Zimmerman threads, but the mod decided to move it. The sticky thread was posted later.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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What about attacks on common decency? I understand there are double standards around here.

I never attacked another poster. You did.

Violation of TOS.

Sorrynotsorry.
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