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Old 07-26-2013, 10:49 PM
 
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They aren't trying to decriminalize child abuse.

They are trying to get psychologists to distinguish between people who are attracted to children and abuse children, and people who are attracted to children but who resist those urges. Because, while there isn't a cure, there are therapies available to help people with these attractions to resist their urges. Just like there are treatments for alcoholics to resist drinking. The organization B4U ACT is trying to provide a safe place where people can get the help and support they need, and are concerned that the stigma scares away people who need help. For many years, people with depression would forego getting treatment because of the stigma attached to mental illness. People with schizophrenia would forego getting treatment. How many people killed themselves because they didn't get help? That's what this is about. Helping people get treated. Helping them understand that they are not bad people because they have these feelings, but they cannot act on those feelings. B4U ACT.
Much truth in the post. Sadly, it will go unrecognized.

There are other things that are being completely misunderstood. In addition to the fact that most pedophiles do not molest children, there is a whole spectrum upon which pedophiles fall. Some have very strong fixations, some have weaker fixations. The idea that pedophiles cannot be "cured," in other words, redirected from their fixations, is also false.

 
Old 07-26-2013, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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they will be in a group so there is no excuse . Promoting perverted junk in this way, by a suggestion in knowledge above the standard by education, is more then promotion of child abuse, by a more then suggested acceptable norm.
I think this requires Babelfish to translate it into English.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 11:58 PM
 
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I think this requires Babelfish to translate it into English.
Probably Stargazzer reincarnated with a new username.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 12:04 AM
 
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I think this requires Babelfish to translate it into English.
Alright then you present a view on this.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 12:12 AM
 
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I think this is why it's important to draw boundaries. 30-40 years ago these fraud doctors would been escorted out of practicing for this blatant attempt at railroading...especially on such a "moral" issue.

To say homosexual propaganda doesn't open the door to this is being, at some level, dishonest. Because saying the notion is ludicrous is myopic, at best. When a once taboo phenomenon is assimilated, the one next door doesn't seem very taboo either.

It's the classic..."When does a puddle become a pool becomes a pond becomes a lake" example.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 12:16 AM
 
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Alright then you present a view on this.
The conferees are entirely correct in their assertions, and they don't need anyone's permission to convene whether they are correct or not. First Amendment and all that.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 12:53 AM
 
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The conferees are entirely correct in their assertions, and they don't need anyone's permission to convene whether they are correct or not. First Amendment and all that.
they belong in jail and everybody knows it...lay out the assertions which u think are legal, and don't forget they are representing themselves on behalf of higher learning and recommending illegal perverted crap, a suggestion of normality from experts is a recommendation, which is support and encouragement.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 02:35 AM
 
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It is a natural, biological behavior.
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Look at the animal kingdom and that's what we are.
Where in the non-human animal kingdom does pedophilia exist? Name all the species in which it is natural and normal for males to mate exclusively with sexually immature females.

Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. It's a primary sexual interest in prepubescent children and that is not natural or normal.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 02:39 AM
 
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You people have strayed far away from the original topic. The topic was pedophilia and abnormality. Pedophilia is attraction to children. Okay, how do we define who is a "child?" Below the age of 18 currently, correct? Do you think it is "abnormal" for adult heterosexual men to be attracted, or, more precisely, being capable of being attracted to 17 year-old girls? In my opinion, a healthy majority of heterosexual males in the United States are capable of being attracted to 17 year-old girls. Those would be "children," correct? Are all those men "pedophiles?" If they are, would it not be logical to call those pedophiles "normal?"
Pedophilia is an exclusive, or at least primary, sexual interest in prepubescent children, generally age 11 and under.

Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. Not natural, not normal.

Nothing to do with 17 year olds. A man with sexual interest in a 17 year old wouldn't be diagnosed a pedophile. He might be an ephebophile if he is sexually attracted to only that age.
 
Old 07-27-2013, 02:46 AM
 
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Where in the non-human animal kingdom does pedophilia exist? Name all the species in which it is natural and normal for males to mate exclusively with sexually immature females.

Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. It's a primary sexual interest in prepubescent children and that is not natural or normal.
Plenty of species eat their own children....and plenty of animals eat other species young..

So if we did that, it would be fair game because it's observed in the animal kingdom?
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