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Old 07-25-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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A court has found that Palmdale's at-large elections violate the California Voting Rights Act by disenfranchising minority voters. (At-large elections get rid of electoral districts; instead everyone votes for all of the seats.) "In his ruling, Superior Court Judge Mark V. Mooney said he did not consider voter turnout or the effectiveness of past campaigns, only voting patterns. He pointed out that intent to discriminate is not required to prove a violation.


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This case presumably involves racial minorities with Constitutional protections, at large elections are often used in college towns to disenfranchise students, who are usually geographically concentrated and are politically feeble in an at large context. Detroit has at large elections, effectively disenfranchising non-racial minorities and weakening candidates with concentrated neighborhood bases..
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Anaheim is next.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...,4625268.story

Liberal meddling judges need to quit messing with election procedures - if the people think that there is a problem - then they can change it.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Groups of people want "their man" in office.

We have the same going on here in Texas. Lloyd Doggett is about as liberal as one can get in Texas and has kept his seat for many years yet the people in San Antonio, his new district, filed a lawsuit. The Latinos there feel "it's their turn" so they want the lines redrawn to get Doggett out of the picture.

In the case of Doggett, it's not about D vs R at all.

The Hispanics have a low voter turnout so the districts would have to be set up such that even low turnout still puts an Hispanic in office.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Harrier doesn't know about Palmdale, but changing from an at-large election won't necessarily give many Hispanics more of a voice in Anaheim.

Illegal immigrants aren't supposed to vote.

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It is against this civic backdrop that the recent police shootings and the protests they have engendered must be viewed. Yes, just over half of Anaheim’s residents are Latino. But some significant portion of them are not U.S. citizens and therefore cannot vote — at least in theory. At the same time, the vast majority of the city’s criminals are also Latino, and, as the map linked above indicates, they are a busy lot. The overall crime rate for the city puts it well below the national and state averages, but what crime there is is concentrated in a few neighborhoods in the center of town where the population of Latinos is highest.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916141/posts
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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I'm seeing lately that this is not about the Black vote anymore. This is about Hispanics getting into office.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Illegal immigrants aren't supposed to vote.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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College students who are not residents of a city/state should not be allowed to vote in that city/state. Their parents' home is their permanent home until they set up a place of residence of their own and then register to vote in that district. Until they do so, they can still vote in their home district even while away at college through absentee ballots or travel home for the weekend to vote locally. Much easier for college students to vote through absentee ballots than for the US Military deployed in other countries.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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um, shooter, illegal aliens are not racially monolithic, so it's not racist.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Groups of people want "their man" in office.

We have the same going on here in Texas. Lloyd Doggett is about as liberal as one can get in Texas and has kept his seat for many years yet the people in San Antonio, his new district, filed a lawsuit. The Latinos there feel "it's their turn" so they want the lines redrawn to get Doggett out of the picture.

In the case of Doggett, it's not about D vs R at all.

The Hispanics have a low voter turnout so the districts would have to be set up such that even low turnout still puts an Hispanic in office.

Doggett campaign: Katie. Bexar the door! (slithering away...)
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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College students who are not residents of a city/state should not be allowed to vote in that city/state. Their parents' home is their permanent home until they set up a place of residence of their own and then register to vote in that district. Until they do so, they can still vote in their home district even while away at college through absentee ballots or travel home for the weekend to vote locally. Much easier for college students to vote through absentee ballots than for the US Military deployed in other countries.
Not necessarily.

A person is a citizen of a state if they (a) reside in that state(which does not mean that they must own a house, they can rent an apartment as many college students do, or live in a dorm), and (b) intend to remain there indefinitely.

185 F2d 543 Gallagher v. Philadelphia Transp Co | OpenJurist

Gordon v. Steele – Case Brief Summary
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