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The stereotype of 3rd-world immigrants being uneducated and low skilled is not true. 3rd-world immigrants settle where they can be content. This is near people who are similar to themselves and they can compete with. That's why states with uneducated people, like TX, WV, NV, attract uneducated 3rd-world immigrants. States like MA, CO, CT, NJ attract educated and highly skilled 3rd-world immigrants (often from Germany, Japan, India, China, etc).
Germany is first world country... They have the largest economy of Europe and low unemployment rate.
Unfortunately, most foreign spouses of American citizens are from Mexico so in a sense it does equate to a massive 3rd world immigration. Does nothing to promote diversity either.
The stereotype of 3rd-world immigrants being uneducated and low skilled is not true. 3rd-world immigrants settle where they can be content. This is near people who are similar to themselves and they can compete with. That's why states with uneducated people, like TX, WV, NV, attract uneducated 3rd-world immigrants. States like MA, CO, CT, NJ attract educated and highly skilled 3rd-world immigrants (often from Germany, Japan, India, China, etc).
I don't think you know what the term 3rd world means..and Germany and Japan are no where near a 3rd world nations.
Germany is first world country... They have the largest economy of Europe and low unemployment rate.
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Originally Posted by gunlover
I don't think you know what the term 3rd world means..and Germany and Japan are no where near a 3rd world nations.
Arg, I should not have put Germany and Japan in there (lost track of context). But the rest of my point is valid. Not everyone coming into the nation from 3rd world is uneducated.
Arg, I should not have put Germany and Japan in there (lost track of context). But the rest of my point is valid. Not everyone coming into the nation from 3rd world is uneducated.
And inversely, not everyone coming to the United States from developed countries are educated...
Explain why you are phrasing the term "unfortunately" for spouses of that country compared to another. Do the origins from any other countries get the same displeasure from you? Is it a disappointment to you that immigrants aren't selected by ethnicity, but rather by commonly qualifying by a relationship to a U.S. citizen?
So how do you then resolve that to the somewhat irrational response you had earlier, where you equated that the system qualifying spouses from third-world countries as "elitist" and "racist", from a political perspective of the "left"? My spouse (with more education than I had completed) and stepchildren immigrated at a time of a Republican administration, and have more of a conservative outlook than I do. Earlier in this thread, another member had said that immigrants of the last twenty years had "infested America".
As the OP, which of your own poll structures had you selected?...
Those who come into this country should be counted on the same list as those who come into this nation on non marriage based immigration.
As for my early post, all I want is for them to be counted on the list, towards the same number of immigrants who come to this nation as a whole.
The infested comment, they mean those with a leftest collectivistic ideologies (Marxist,Communist,Socialist,Statist) or have ideas that are just not what Anti America( think massive welfare state, open borders, massive foreign aid, limiting firearm rights, reverse discrimination ect) these who we let in though the front door or allow to sneak in. Its great that your spouse and your stepchildren have the winning mindset, the winning view points and in a nation where they can succeed.
As for those who would kill this nation by voting for the same failed ideas that killed their home nations, then need to leave before we make them leave...we are not going anywhere this our Sparta, we care not of your ways, or your ideals, if they could work, they would have in your nation, since the have failed their and many, many, many other nations, they will fail here as well only where will the American Patriot retreat to?
their is no where else to go. this is our bastion of liberty and freedom and if we fall, humanity will end a new age of tyranny,oppression, evil and suffering unlike anything ever seen before..
If you believe what this nation was founded on
Limited government via a Constitutional Republic
A balanced budget
A Sound monetary policy
A strong military
A blind rule of law that no man is below and no man is above
A unifringed 2nd Amendment
Secure borders and a immigration that benefits America as a whole and not parties
A strong work ethic
The burning desire to be free from all forms of tyranny that wish to enslave the body and minds of free men..
Then please come here through the front door and you will know liberty, freedom, prosperity and joy beyond anything you can imagine.
If you believe in
Marxist
Socialism
Communism
Statism
Globalism
Welfareism
Mobocracy
Limiting firearm rights
The burning desire to subjugate and usurp the liberty and property of others to raise above and dominate them to limit and alienate unalienable rights, I can assume you, will be find nothing here, but misery, pain, and horrors that make what ever hell we send you to look like heaven.
Those who come into this country should be counted on the same list as those who come into this nation on non marriage based immigration.
As for my early post, all I want is for them to be counted on the list, towards the same number of immigrants who come to this nation as a whole.
The infested comment, they mean those with a leftest collectivistic ideologies (Marxist,Communist,Socialist,Statist) or have ideas that are just not what Anti America( think massive welfare state, open borders, massive foreign aid, limiting firearm rights, reverse discrimination ect) these who we let in though the front door or allow to sneak in. Its great that your spouse and your stepchildren have the winning mindset, the winning view points and in a nation where they can succeed.
As for those who would kill this nation by voting for the same failed ideas that killed their home nations, then need to leave before we make them leave...we are not going anywhere this our Sparta, we care not of your ways, or your ideals, if they could work, they would have in your nation, since the have failed their and many, many, many other nations, they will fail here as well only where will the American Patriot retreat to?
their is no where else to go. this is our bastion of liberty and freedom and if we fall, humanity will end a new age of tyranny,oppression, evil and suffering unlike anything ever seen before..
If you believe what this nation was founded on
Limited government via a Constitutional Republic
A balanced budget
A Sound monetary policy
A strong military
A blind rule of law that no man is below and no man is above
A unifringed 2nd Amendment
Secure borders and a immigration that benefits America as a whole and not parties
A strong work ethic
The burning desire to be free from all forms of tyranny that wish to enslave the body and minds of free men..
Then please come here through the front door and you will know liberty, freedom, prosperity and joy beyond anything you can imagine.
If you believe in
Marxist
Socialism
Communism
Statism
Globalism
Welfareism
Mobocracy
Limiting firearm rights
The burning desire to subjugate and usurp the liberty and property of others to raise above and dominate them to limit and alienate unalienable rights, I can assume you, will be find nothing here, but misery, pain, and horrors that make what ever hell we send you to look like heaven.
So which of your poll selections have you chosen yourself?...
I fail to see how removing quotas for "Immediate Relatives" will change the political views of immigrants to what you want. Specific relationships to a U.S. citizen have always given more priorities than others. Waiting twenty years to immigrate one's spouse would be interminable, it was long enough as it is (while I prepared for a fifth military deployment).
I just took the "infesting America" as less of a political determination, and more of actual bigotry...
So which of your poll selections have you chosen yourself?...
I fail to see how removing quotas for "Immediate Relatives" will change the political views of immigrants to what you want. Specific relationships to a U.S. citizen have always given more priorities than others. Waiting twenty years to immigrate one's spouse would be interminable, it was long enough as it is (while I prepared for a fifth military deployment).
I just took the "infesting America" as less of a political determination, and more of actual bigotry...
if they wont change, dont let them in...bigotry to not want to let in those would use freedom to push forth tyranny? then I am a bigot.
thank for your service if you are ever in Vegas first round is one me.
if they wont change, dont let them in...bigotry to not want to let in those would use freedom to push forth tyranny? then I am a bigot.
thank for your service if you are ever in Vegas first round is one me.
You still haven't told me which poll selections you picked. "Limited/banned" also isn't very descriptive. I'm failing to see how you are thinking to block someone that has already qualified to immigrate to the United States, especially based on the defined political views you have presented.
That concept of a drinking environment is foreign to me, I am a teetotaler...
Legal or illegal they should have to prove they will never be a drain on American society.
And you can't say that about the legal immigrants that have infested America for the last 20 or so years...
I gather you don't know what was and is still required for those who go through the LEGAL process to become a legal immigrant (the majority who possess a college degree, work experience, possess skills and are fluent in English) prior to Obama's "give them (his protected class) a pass". One requirement to the LEGAL process is show one is capable to support themselves by showing proof of funds and they understand that they would not be entitled to government assistance - this is also a requirement for immigrants who marry US citizens - and applies to the US citizen as well. They (and US citizens) are required to sign a document stating they understand those conditions, amongst other conditions.
I can point you in a number of directions that are infested by Americans that are a drain on America society, but I think you already know where they are because you are so good at spreading your hate around. A drain on society isn't necessarily an economic drain.
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