GOP votes to repeal Obamacare 39 times, but won't defund it! (Congress, interview)

[rikoshaprl]

I am just about done with the GOP. The house votes 39 times to repeal Obamacare when they know it will never pass the senate. Great safe show of conservatism. Now when all they have to do is defund Obamacare to kill it they won't! If this vote does not pass I will never vote for a rino again, even if a democrat will win. What is the point. They vote the same way anyhow. I will only vote for the conservative candidate or stay home.

When the democrats don't like a law they will do anything to kill it; executive orders, Justice Dept. action, whatever it takes. Obamacare as passed was unconstitutional anyway. The Supreme court had to rewrite it to make it legal. It was not in their legitimate power to do that.

The rinos think there will be a political backlash from democrats against them? Wait until they see the backlash from the Tea Party folks. House republicans: grow a pair. Defund Obamacare for the good of the country.

[shooting4life]

What are you talkin about?

To defund it would require a budget (good luck getting one of those passed the senate). The court route was already tried and failed because the its not a tax Obamacare is actually a tax (who knew) and the republicans would actually need to be uncharged of the presidency to have the justice department or sign an executive order.

You really lack an understanding of how government works.

[nononsenseguy]

They can't just "defund" it, because most of it is "Mandatory Spending" which they can't do anything about. There was a discussion of this very topic on the news just today. What amount they could defund is miniscule, and would have virtually no effect.

[rikoshaprl]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

What are you talkin about?

To defund it would require a budget (good luck getting one of those passed the senate). The court route was already tried and failed because the its not a tax Obamacare is actually a tax (who knew) and the republicans would actually need to be uncharged of the presidency to have the justice department or sign an executive order.

You really lack an understanding of how government works.

You have got to be delusional. Have you even heard of a debt ceiling?. Without the house increasing the debt limit the government will shut down. The house has submitted a budget every year. It is the democrat senate that doesn't produce budgets anymore, leading to these standoffs. All spending must start in the house. Sound familiar?

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by rikoshaprl

You have got to be delusional. Have you even heard of a debt ceiling?. Without the house increasing the debt limit the government will shut down. The house has submitted a budget every year. It is the democrat senate that doesn't produce budgets anymore, leading to these standoffs. All spending must start in the house. Sound familiar?

A budget has never left the senate, even when the houses passes one. It is the same problem as the house repealing Obamacare and the senate doing nothing with it.
The whole thing is a dog and pony show

[Mister Mister]

Ah, there's nothing like the smell of the GOP imploding on a beautiful sunny morning....

[rikoshaprl]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

They can't just "defund" it, because most of it is "Mandatory Spending" which they can't do anything about. There was a discussion of this very topic on the news just today. What amount they could defund is miniscule, and would have virtually no effect.

That is nonsense guy! The democrats decided to not have budgets anymore but to have continuing resolutions. The house does not have to fund anything. They are proposing to fund everything not related to Obamacare. If the senate doesn't like it, they can shut down the government. It wouldn't be the first time it happened. Obama is not following the Affordable Healthcare Law as written so the house has no reason to fund it.

[Twist of Lime]

Someone's delusional... but it's not Senator Coburn.
Tom Coburn: Campaign to defund Obamacare

In a phone interview from his home state of Oklahoma, Coburn slammed a dozen fellow Republican senators who have signed a pledge not to vote for any continuing resolution or appropriations bill that funds Obamacare, which is set to go fully into effect on January 1, 2014. “I’d love to defund it,” said Coburn, a physician who has opposed the president’s national health care scheme from the beginning. “I’d be leading the charge if I thought this would work. But it will not work.”

Coburn’s case against the proposal is simple: Republicans, having failed to win control of the White House and Senate in 2012, do not have the votes to cut off Obamacare funding. Given that, he sees the defunding proposal as not just wrongheaded but also an effort to mislead conservatives across the country who long to see Republicans stop Obamacare. “The worst thing is being dishonest with your base about what you can accomplish, ginning everybody up and then creating disappointment,” Coburn said. “It’s a terribly dangerous and not successful strategy.”

[TempesT68]

The GOP/teabaggers are nothing but a bunch of whiny brats acting like 2 year olds. 39 freakin' times they have wasted taxpayer dime and time in congress where they could actually be getting things done, rather they want to throw the temper tantrum on the century.

The GOP needs to get their heads out of their asses and grow up.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

The GOP/teabaggers are nothing but a bunch of whiny brats acting like 2 year olds. 39 freakin' times they have wasted taxpayer dime and time in congress where they could actually be getting things done, rather they want to throw the temper tantrum on the century.

The GOP needs to get their heads out of their asses and grow up.

You might be taken more seriously is if in the same post you complain about senate democrats not passing a budget since 2009.

Just trying to make CD a better place.