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Old 11-16-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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Well if we just cut these people off as you suggest, I think we'd all pay the price for that kind of callousness. People will only tolerate so much. Once a certain point is reached, crime against those-who-have is likely to skyrocket. We'd be spending a great deal more on protecting what we have. Why not spend the same amount on simply helping out the less fortunate. For better or worse, we're gonna pay it one way or the other.

 
Old 11-16-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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cyber queen - in what state do you live? Even little socialist me would like to avoid it.

lol nj.
 
Old 11-16-2009, 06:10 PM
 
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It is the same here cyberqueen. But you do pay more for your vehichle insurance and house insurance than we do. Then again, it depends on where you live and house values. 10,000 taxes a year must put you in a very nice place that is desirable to sell.

The average home value is $515,463, average income is $87,584. The housing prices have remained pretty stable here. I am not in the "hood" but it is not Beverly Hill either. LOL
 
Old 11-17-2009, 08:40 AM
 
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Well if we just cut these people off as you suggest, I think we'd all pay the price for that kind of callousness. People will only tolerate so much. Once a certain point is reached, crime against those-who-have is likely to skyrocket. We'd be spending a great deal more on protecting what we have. Why not spend the same amount on simply helping out the less fortunate. For better or worse, we're gonna pay it one way or the other.
I wouldn't leave 'em out in the street. I would make them do their share of the work in order to receive assistance. I would also assess how they are spending the money they get. Some may consider that an affront to their dignity, but after having been in a lot of 'poor' people's homes, I can tell you that there is a lot of waste going towards more than basic survival.
 
Old 11-18-2009, 05:42 AM
 
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The average home value is $515,463, average income is $87,584. The housing prices have remained pretty stable here. I am not in the "hood" but it is not Beverly Hill either. LOL
Your figures are not for the entire state of NJ, are they?

They sound like they are for one of the more affluent sections of NJ, such as Morris County.
 
Old 11-18-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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"Anyone who knows how much he's worth isn't worth that much" - the late H. L. Hunt of Dallas, Texas once called the world's richest man.
 
Old 11-18-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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Anyone who measures their worth in dollars, has apparently forgotten that they are a spiritual being living in the material world....CosmicWizard
 
Old 11-18-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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Your figures are not for the entire state of NJ, are they?

They sound like they are for one of the more affluent sections of NJ, such as Morris County.
I live in Middlesex County. The average housing price for my county is $427,135. Average household income is $104,000 per year.

In the entire state the average income is around $71,284 and the average house price is $400,000. So to answer you question yup it is pretty much like that in the entire state.
 
Old 11-18-2009, 07:50 PM
 
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I would rather make 80,000 a year doing something everyday that I am 100% passionate about than making 300,000 a year doing something else.
 
Old 11-18-2009, 08:22 PM
 
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I wouldn't leave 'em out in the street. I would make them do their share of the work in order to receive assistance. I would also assess how they are spending the money they get. Some may consider that an affront to their dignity, but after having been in a lot of 'poor' people's homes, I can tell you that there is a lot of waste going towards more than basic survival.
They already do -- Welfare to Work. Plus cash assistance is limited to 5 years total over a lifetime. Plus, you know, "assess how they are spending the money they get", arent you asking that the government be intrusive, there? Why not let the free market work, in this case?

Anyway, you might look up the state of welfare and how it's changed since 1996 or thereabouts.
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