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View Poll Results: Do you believe the welfare system rewards the wrong people to reproduce in large numbers?
Yes 160 74.07%
No 42 19.44%
Yes/No 14 6.48%
Voters: 216. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-30-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Well every time I tried to enroll in an education or training program, they demanded cash up front.
It doesn't necessarily require an education or training program. It requires motivation, ingenuity, and hard/smart work.

The problem you seem to be having is that you have no clue whatsoever how to improve your own situation, and you're looking to anyone or everyone else to tell you what you should do. How's that working out for you?
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Such a great poll.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:56 PM
 
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Yes, the system rewards the poor in the form of government subsidies to have kids. The more kids they have the more money they get.

Dependency is another form of slavery.
This.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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Yes, the system rewards the poor in the form of government subsidies to have kids. The more kids they have the more money they get.

Dependency is another form of slavery.
And we all have to carry the chains for the actions of others, how is that just?
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: 53179
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I despise this woman in the video. What a pice of garbage she is. I feel really bad for her children. I am so upset at her attitude and her life choices that part of me want to punish her and stop any kind of aid given to her, but at the same time Im thinking about those poor little children. The children needs a mother, a family. They should be together, not separated. The whole situation sucks.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Did not think the poll would be clear cut to such a degree.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:35 AM
 
Location: USA
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Not just welfare, many systems in our country give preferred treatment to families.
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:12 AM
 
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It is just amazing to me the ignorance of public policy. Of why women have children. This is what I mean conservatives have fantasy discussions. Women do not have children to get "benefits". This lie has been repeatedly debunked yet because conservatives want to demonize single moms they keep believing this falsehood.

Secondly, in a few states you don't get anymore money no matter children. And in a HUGE percentage of states once you are receiving TANF you get no extra TANF for any children that are born. There is a five year max lifetime cap and there is a work requirement.

Again, this is all factual information that was passed in the welfare reform bill in 1996, yet conservatives ignore it and have the same dumb discussions over and over and over again, based on the same misinformation.

Like seriously isn't 17 years long enough to read up on the welfare reform act passed in 1996 and get some basic facts.
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:15 AM
 
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It is just amazing to me the ignorance of public policy. Of why women have children. This is what I mean conservatives have fantasy discussions. Women do not have children to get "benefits". This lie has been repeatedly debunked yet because conservatives want to demonize single moms they keep believing this falsehood.

Secondly, in a few states you don't get anymore money no matter children. And in a HUGE percentage of states once you are receiving TANF you get no extra TANF for any children that are born. There is a five year max lifetime cap and there is a work requirement.

Again, this is all factual information that was passed in the welfare reform bill in 1996, yet conservatives ignore it and have the same dumb discussions over and over and over again, based on the same misinformation.

Like seriously isn't 17 years long enough to read up on the welfare reform act passed in 1996 and get some basic facts.
Wanna bet? Cut off all the freebies given as a reward for having children they cannot afford, and watch the response.

These women have a huge sense of entitlement. With all the thousands of forms of birth control out there along with sterilization and abstinence, these babies aren't "accidents". And most of these women aren't stupid enough to not know there is some cost involved in raising kids. Of course they have them intending to get on Medicaid, food stamps, free housing, Obamaphones, WIC, free cash, and much more.
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:23 AM
 
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Wanna bet? Cut off all the freebies given as a reward for having children they cannot afford, and watch the response.

These women have a huge sense of entitlement. With all the thousands of forms of birth control out there along with sterilization and abstinence, these babies aren't "accidents". And most of these women aren't stupid enough to not know there is some cost involved in raising kids. Of course they have them intending to get on Medicaid, food stamps, free housing, Obamaphones, WIC, free cash, and much more.
You simply are wrong. Southern states which generally have the stingiest benefits have the highest oow birthrates, if women were driven to have children based on benefits, then the women in the states with the most generous benefits would have the most children, but that is not the case.

I would think that conservatives who believe this slanderous lie about millions of human beings would want some ironclad proof to justify such a despicable belief, but nah, conservatives don't care about investigating basic facts.

But conservatives are driven by hatred for millions of their fellow citizens and so they tend to not care about reality when they are lying on millions of Americans.
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