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So you have one comment by arguable one of the most fringe conservatives on this board, that came far after this repeated question was initially brought up - in the 3rd post of this thread, out of nowhere?
So you have one comment by arguable one of the most fringe conservatives on this board, that came far after this repeated question was initially brought up - in the 3rd post of this thread, out of nowhere?
Not good enough.
This is nothing but childish deflection, IMO.
Seems you like to play ignorant and play word games at the same time, then I expect you to fight all the comments the extreme right frequently make that implies that people on welfare are living the life of luxury. Why, I seem to remember the extreme right saying that our poor live lives of luxury because they have TVs and air conditioning , filet mignon, lobster, etc. Those are things that imply the poor are living a luxurious life on the taxpayer dime because the right wingers on here don't buy food like that. But, go ahead and play word games all you want, that is deflection
Seems you like to play ignorant and play word games at the same time, then I expect you to fight all the comments the extreme right frequently make that implies that people on welfare are living the life of luxury. Why, I seem to remember the extreme right saying that our poor live lives of luxury because they have TVs and air conditioning , filet mignon, lobster, etc. Those are things that imply the poor are living a luxurious life on the taxpayer dime because the right wingers on here don't buy food like that. But, go ahead and play word games all you want, that is deflection
Actually, it is called brainwashing, that is, listening to way too much RW TPM's and not forming an opinion from being intellectually honest, but is mere parroting of what has been heard.
No one said life on the dole was "luxurious". The point was that life on the dole is easy and comfortable. So much so that they have 3 times the birthrate of those not on welfare. So much so that it's generational in some families. I have overheard people, very young and able-body people discuss tactics on gaming the system.
Another thing is that those who make a career out of being on the dole have very low standards. I mean those housing projects aren't a beacon of productivity or hell even cleanliness now are they? If you have low standards then eating cheap, unhealthy goods bought with food-stamps, living in crime-infested communities and taking the bus becomes possible and acceptable. My point is that with such low expectations, a welfare check could easily fund those low expectations. For a life of stable welfare income in exchange for a lowered standard of living. I mean if you could work for $500 or get $300 for free, which would you take?. Most would take the $300 because it's easy and stress-free, all you have to do is lower yourself.
So no, stop with the stupid straw-man of "if welfare is so good then why don't you get on it". Because some of us like to live in nice communities, drive nice cars, and eat good food.
Seems you like to play ignorant and play word games at the same time, then I expect you to fight all the comments the extreme right frequently make that implies that people on welfare are living the life of luxury. Why, I seem to remember the extreme right saying that our poor live lives of luxury because they have TVs and air conditioning , filet mignon, lobster, etc. Those are things that imply the poor are living a luxurious life on the taxpayer dime because the right wingers on here don't buy food like that. But, go ahead and play word games all you want, that is deflection
I think you miss the point.
"Welfare" is public assistance for those in NEED.
If you have big screen TV's, eat luxury foods and have rims on your car that are worth more than the car, you don't need our assistance.
No it's not. And no you don't see people buying steak & lobster with them either, as you previously posted. That's the biggest lie I see coming out of the mouths of conservatives, it's to the point that it is laughable.
No? I saw a woman buying two carts of food (complete with ribs) for an entire cookout over the weekend. I also see them buying case after case of soft drinks to take back to their bodegas.
No one said life on the dole was "luxurious". The point was that life on the dole is easy and comfortable. So much so that they have 3 times the birthrate of those not on welfare. So much so that it's generational in some families. I have overheard people, very young and able-body people discuss tactics on gaming the system.
Another thing is that those who make a career out of being on the dole have very low standards. I mean those housing projects aren't a beacon of productivity or hell even cleanliness now are they? If you have low standards then eating cheap, unhealthy goods bought with food-stamps, living in crime-infested communities and taking the bus becomes possible and acceptable. My point is that with such low expectations, a welfare check could easily fund those low expectations. For a life of stable welfare income in exchange for a lowered standard of living. I mean if you could work for $500 or get $300 for free, which would you take?. Most would take the $300 because it's easy and stress-free, all you have to do is lower yourself.
So no, stop with the stupid straw-man of "if welfare is so good then why don't you get on it". Because some of us like to live in nice communities, drive nice cars, and eat good food.
First, as income increases, birthdate declines. That is true everywhere -- unless you are arguing that African plains people have many children due to generous welfare. We also find that there is greater unwed and teen birth rates in southern red states. Are the welfare benefits in red states more generous? Quite the opposite, which discredits the theory that welfare causes a greater birth rate.
Second, welfare is limited to five years. The permanent welfare that you speak was reformed in 1996.
They already get free housing, free food, free phones, free utilities, free education, free utilities, etc.
Now they complain about the cost of diapers.
What exactly are they responsible for providing themselves?
At the very least, can they keep their neighborhoods clean?
I was talking to my coworker about this. If they spent their month budget on cloth diapers, they wouldn't have this problem. Cloth diapers are so much better then those crappy throw away. Never have a blow out ever again with new age cloth diapers.
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, filet mignon, lobster, etc. Those are things that imply the poor are living a luxurious life on the taxpayer dime because the right wingers on here don't buy food like that. But, go ahead and play word games all you want, that is deflection
