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Old 08-01-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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Okay. I'll stick with the 97%. That a bunch of denialists won't because of their ideology won't change that, because it's not an ideological matter. I'm not about to pretend they're in a position to gainsay anyone, no matter how many exclamation points they use.
If you can't pull up a computer model, break it down yourself andddd remove all fossil fuel burning fixtures from the environment to test this...

It is faith you are subscribing to..

of course, this is neglecting that AGW theory has failed countless other tests
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yes, I am neglecting that. When you're published, let me know. Then I'll take you seriously.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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Yes, I am neglecting that. When you're published, let me know. Then I'll take you seriously.
The Bible is published...do ya put stock in that too??
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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I won't pretend you don't know what I meant. See you in the funny papers.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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The Bible is published...do ya put stock in that too??
There's a thing called "publish or perish" in the research/scientist world. Are you in that world? Have you actually researched & then published?
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:09 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Yeah, the whole denial of GW reminds me so much of the very same thing that happened in regards to the claims (by a relative handful of "scientists") that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. For years and years and years, those "scientists" argued that "the studies were flawed", "the data was falsified", etc, etc, etc - and then when all was said and done, we come to find out that those "scientists" were all on the payroll of the tobacco companies - in effect paid "scientific prostitutes".
Ok, who exactly denies Climate Change? I've literally never met a person you denies that Climate Change is occurring. I'm sure there's some moonbats out there (just as the Democrats are not all tightly wound), but the vast majority of people that you think "deny" Climate Change simply disagree with you on the % we account for. It's a much different argument and one I'd love to have! Humans account for .033% of Greenhouse Gases. That's the dirty secret the Progressive want to avoid. If it's so cut and dried....why continue this lie of "They deny Climate Change"? Why muzzle legitimate experts who disagree? Why would anyone have to create the science behind it? The real question should be "Since we know humans account for only .033% of carbon emissions, does any of this make sense?". Wouldn't be be better off spending all this time and money on adapting to the inevitable Climate Change that is already upon us?".

I prefer to focus on America being the leader in adaptation technology. That the US economy is the country to prosper from it instead of someone else. Just a different point of view. Diversity is good.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:12 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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There's a thing called "publish or perish" in the research/scientist world. Are you in that world? Have you actually researched & then published?
Isn't that sort of the problem? If someone in the research world doesn't publish things that his peers agree with and review well, then their career will perish?
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:58 AM
 
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Scientists’ theories often seem to rely on premises that require their own kind of faith. For example, when it comes to the origin of life, most evolutionists adhere to ideas that require faith in certain 'doctrines'. Facts are mixed with theories. And when scientists use the weight of their authority to impose blind belief in evolution, they are in reality implying: ‘You are not responsible for your morality because you are merely the product of biology, chemistry, and physics.’ Biologist Richard Dawkins says that in the universe ‘there is no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but pointless indifference.’
Um ...isn't a Scientific Theory an explanation of observable facts? Or are you using the layman's definition of 'theory'?

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To uphold such beliefs, some scientists choose to ignore the extensive research of other scientists who contradict the theoretical foundations for their theories on the origin of life. Even if we allow for billions of years of time, the accidental forming of the complex molecules required to form a functional living cell has been shown to be a mathematical impossibility. Thus, the dogmatic theories on the origin of life that appear in many textbooks must be considered invalid.
What "extensive research" are you referring to? Which scientists?
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:09 AM
 
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So you go around, copying and pasting Watchtower publications to message boards? How many extra bonus points do you get in heaven for doing this?

We've been able to recreate the atmosphere of primative earth in a beaker and form biomolecules for a while now. Should've paid more attention the first week of Biology class.
LOL. Good catch.

How Did the Universe and Life Originate? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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Ok, who exactly denies Climate Change? I've literally never met a person you denies that Climate Change is occurring. I'm sure there's some moonbats out there (just as the Democrats are not all tightly wound), but the vast majority of people that you think "deny" Climate Change simply disagree with you on the % we account for. It's a much different argument and one I'd love to have! Humans account for .033% of Greenhouse Gases. That's the dirty secret the Progressive want to avoid. If it's so cut and dried....why continue this lie of "They deny Climate Change"? Why muzzle legitimate experts who disagree? Why would anyone have to create the science behind it? The real question should be "Since we know humans account for only .033% of carbon emissions, does any of this make sense?". Wouldn't be be better off spending all this time and money on adapting to the inevitable Climate Change that is already upon us?".

I prefer to focus on America being the leader in adaptation technology. That the US economy is the country to prosper from it instead of someone else. Just a different point of view. Diversity is good.

.033% only refers to the mouth breathing of ultra conservatives.

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