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Remember how just last week the Republicans claimed this wasn't happening and how they shot down a bill to end this. Hell, at least the libertarian wing of the Republican Party (which is a tiny minority of that party's elected representatives) joined the liberals in trying to put an end to this. But it was the tea party people along with the "main stream" Republican representatives who invented excuses, blocked reform, and made sure this illegal activity kept happening.
evidently YOU dont think for yourself. OR you dont want others to actually think for themselves.
Here are the facts about the bill you speak of.
It was supported by BOTH republicans and democrats.
it was OPPOSED by BOTH republicans and democrats.
Mr Obama didnt want the bill passed. The Democrat leadership didnt want the bill passed.
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It was the liberals and the libertarians while most of the tea party people (like Michelle Bachmann) invented excuses and claimed if you were against this sort of unconstitutional actions then you were "pro-terrorist". She literally said that.
I would like to see any of them that arent up for re-election vote for reform... M.B has nothing to lose, if she were running again she would have lost most of her T.P people I would think...Anyone got a list of individual votes on this?
Charlie Rose/PBS keeps having the former CIA and FBI director on, they are saying how great the spying is.
Gen. Michael Hayden, a former director of the National Security Agency, tells NPR’s Weekend Edition Sunday that the government’s acquisition of phone records and surveillance of Internet activity is lawful and justified by the changing nature of the war on terrorism.
Hayden, who served as NSA chief from 1999-2005 and is also a former CIA director, says NSA’s activities are “perfectly legal” and “an accurate reflection of balancing our security and our privacy.”
The program of gathering phone record metadata, first detailed in The Guardian newspaper last week, is analogous to collecting the haystack in case you should suddenly need to find a needle, he tells NPR.
“We roll up an al-Qaida cell somewhere, let’s just say Yemen,” he says as an example. “We grab a cell phone. We know through the pocket litter that the owner of that cell phone is involved in terrorist activity. We didn’t know about that cell phone before. We didn’t have that number.”
But only with the number can the agency run it through the metadata and parse correlations and connections. Otherwise, the information is put away and “not touched,” he says.
Remember how just last week the Republicans claimed this wasn't happening and how they shot down a bill to end this. Hell, at least the libertarian wing of the Republican Party (which is a tiny minority of that party's elected representatives) joined the liberals in trying to put an end to this. But it was the tea party people along with the "main stream" Republican representatives who invented excuses, blocked reform, and made sure this illegal activity kept happening.
Where do you get your information? Stop injecting partisan nonsense into a bipartisan action.
BOTH parties are colluding to destroy our rights, and stomping on the Constitution.
Civil libertarians and the far left side of the Democratic Party are rightly irritated by this development. The Huffington Post reported that in response to their backlash, Pelosi spent most of the following day doing damage control for her “no” vote and vigilant efforts to kill the bill.
Remember how just last week the Republicans claimed this wasn't happening and how they shot down a bill to end this. Hell, at least the libertarian wing of the Republican Party (which is a tiny minority of that party's elected representatives) joined the liberals in trying to put an end to this. But it was the tea party people along with the "main stream" Republican representatives who invented excuses, blocked reform, and made sure this illegal activity kept happening.
Pathetic.
I called this on day one - it's worse than what they've admitted.
The NSA can't even search it's own e-mail. It's woefully understaffed and going to have great difficulty finding talent moving forward. No hacker wants to work there and I have ZERO qualified colleagues from both academia and industry who would even consider being employed there.
When are the mandatory enemas coming? We wouldn't want anything hidden from the NSA...
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