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Old 08-13-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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But it will only blow up more than Iran Contra, if the media publish it as much as they did Iran Contra, and point our the details and illegalities as much as they did Iran Contra.

Which they won't.
If the story about the 400 stolen surface to air missiles is true, it won't matter WHAT the MSM tries to ignore.

It'll be like trying to not cover 911.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Right you are.......this is the Benghazi thread.

Now did we ever figure out why the administration decided to run with the lie?
Never let a crisis go to waste. They could have it both ways, cover their azzes on their gun-running in the Middle East AND disingenuously chide those they "claim" are acting in non-accepting ways towards Muslims.

Has Democrat written all over it, much like the gun-running to Mexico the Obama admin has already been caught doing.

Obama admin = most corrupt ever
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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What are you carrying on about? This is the CIA. They do things like try to recover anti-air missiles or get them to the hands of "friendlies" in Syria. That is what they do.

Why would any of that embarrass the administration?
Normally, it wouldn't. It's an embarrassment this time because it was SO badly handled by the Obama admin that an Ambassador was murdered because of team Obama's/Hillary's ineptness.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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Normally, it wouldn't. It's an embarrassment this time because it was SO badly handled by the Obama admin that an Ambassador was murdered because of team Obama's/Hillary's ineptness.
Nonsense. Stevens and his IT guy got done in by the judgement of Stevens and no one else. He was the expert and he was in charge. There is no reason he was in Benghazi except he chose to be.

The other two were CIA heavies who got killed because that happens to CIA heavies. There job had that risk for which they were well paid. They died in the service of their country doing stuff they knew could get them killed.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Nonsense. Stevens and his IT guy got done in by the judgement of Stevens and no one else. He was the expert and he was in charge. There is no reason he was in Benghazi except he chose to be.
You are ignoring that Ambassador Stevens asked for extra security at the embassy.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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You are ignoring that Ambassador Stevens asked for extra security at the embassy.
To do his job. Which wasn't a matter of choice. It was his assigned duty.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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You are ignoring that Ambassador Stevens asked for extra security at the embassy.
It was not an embassy and it obviously had unusual security at its annex.

Stevens certainly knew what the situation there was and had the option of not staying there if he considered it dangerous. It was not his assigned site.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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It was not an embassy and it obviously had unusual security at its annex.

Stevens certainly knew what the situation there was and had the option of not staying there if he considered it dangerous. It was not his assigned site.
What makes you think an Ambassador never leaves his/her assigned site while conducting official duties?
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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What makes you think an Ambassador never leaves his/her assigned site while conducting official duties?
Of course they can and do. Stevens was clearly of the sort that would do what he wanted to do. And it got him killed. There is no indications that higher authority required him to be in Benghazi or even knew he was there.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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Of course they can and do. Stevens was clearly of the sort that would do what he wanted to do. And it got him killed.
He wasn't conducting duties related to his Ambassadorship? He was just off doing something on his own? Cite your source for that.
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