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Old 08-02-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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obviously America did not need those jobs.

The hardworking middle class taxpayer was paying for nothing.
Cutting jobs just when the economy was gaining momentum was IDIOTIC.

The party-first Republicans sabotaged us again.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Well 65 doesn't do anything for them as SS is now 66.
But the SS reports don't back that up. We are not seeing 300,000 new signups for SS every month are we ?

From SS here's how many are getting SS. That was not a 300,000 increase.

May: 54,265,000
June: 54,274,000

SS puts out a monthly statistical report. All you need to do is look at the breakdown.
SS does not compare nor report increases month over month. You have to do it yourself.

The number do not back up "everyone's retiring" at all.
I guess no one dies anymore
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I guess no one dies anymore
No one says they are not dying.

But remember that "everyone's retiring" as well as "10,000 turn 65" every day were both reasons why the workforce is shrinking.

I just showed that less than 10,000 people signed up for SS between May and June.

You have more people getting on disability rather than SS.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:33 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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No one says they are not dying.

But remember that "everyone's retiring" as well as "10,000 turn 65" every day were both reasons why the workforce is shrinking.

I just showed that less than 10,000 people signed up for SS between May and June.

You have more people getting on disability rather than SS.
I dont remember typing "everyone is retiring".

And you are making a false equivalency. Retirement does not mean that they all apply for SSI, you dont get full benefits till 67(not 66).
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I dont remember typing "everyone is retiring".

And you are making a false equivalency. Retirement does not mean that they all apply for SSI, you dont get full benefits till 67(not 66).
If you were born in 1960 or later your retirement age is 67.
If you were born in 1954 it is 66.
From 1955-1959 it is 66 and add 6 months for every year.

Retirement Planner: Full Retirement Age
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Hours worked down.

Household income down.

Employment Participation among white males at record lows.

Employment participation among 25 to 54 year olds at lows since 1984.

Food Stamps up to all time highs.

Poverty at highest rate in over 50 years.

All these numbers are worse since Obama declared that the recovery had started....what a joke.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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In related news, 1.5 million jobs lost due to Republican Sequester.
Many of the posts on this forum would be fun and entertaining if not for the fact that they're so asinine and pathetic.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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obviously America did not need those jobs.

The hardworking middle class taxpayer was paying for nothing.
That's 1.5 million hardworking middle class people formerly employed by government. This does not take into consideration the number of jobs losses in state, county and municipal governments which is even greater than the loss of fed jobs.

BTW, I have known plenty of " hardworking" people employed by some form of government and plenty of " hardly working" people employed in the private sector.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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I don't know if it is true or not, but if it is SHAME ON THE LIBERALS for distorting the truth...
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Well 65 doesn't do anything for them as SS is now 66.
But the SS reports don't back that up. We are not seeing 300,000 new signups for SS every month are we ?

From SS here's how many are getting SS. That was not a 300,000 increase.

May: 54,265,000
June: 54,274,000

SS puts out a monthly statistical report. All you need to do is look at the breakdown.
SS does not compare nor report increases month over month. You have to do it yourself.

The number do not back up "everyone's retiring" at all.
SS publishes net totals by month for those 65 or older who are receiving benefits. This reflects change from those who no longer receive SS, presumably because they have passed on.

The net difference between Dec, 2012 and June, 2013 is + 628,000.

Monthly Statistical Snapshot, December 2012
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