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Old 08-03-2013, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Age of consent in Mississippi is 16.
What is the Mississippi Legal Age of Consent for 2013?
That's for fornication. The marriage age for females is 15, and the statute prohibiting marital rape only applies to forcible rape.

Mississippi Marriage Age Requirements Laws - FindLaw
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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That's for fornication. The marriage age for females is 15, and the statute prohibiting marital rape only applies to forcible rape.

Mississippi Marriage Age Requirements Laws - FindLaw
And this bill is not applying to married underage mothers - only those who are under the age of 16 and will not name the father. I am not sure what point you're trying to make. Either way, Mississippi has a huge problem with very young girls getting impregnated by much older men. They're not trying to convict teenage sex here, they're trying to stop statutory rape of very young girls.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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And this bill is not applying to married underage mothers - only those who are under the age of 16 and will not name the father. I am not sure what point you're trying to make. Either way, Mississippi has a huge problem with very young girls getting impregnated by much older men. They're not trying to convict teenage sex here, they're trying to stop statutory rape of very young girls.
My criminal law teacher in college sagely noted: "The only way to get rid of [statutory rape] is to have everyone's birthdate tattooed between their thighs."

Regardless of what the MS legislature is thinking, malamute made some seriously off-the-wall comments that went way beyond that and needed to be addressed on their own terms.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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My criminal law teacher in college sagely noted: "The only way to get rid of [statutory rape] is to have everyone's birthdate tattooed between their thighs."

Regardless of what the MS legislature is thinking, malamute made some seriously off-the-wall comments that went way beyond that and needed to be addressed on their own terms.
I am not sure if this law will have any impact but it's good to see them at least trying to be proactive about the problem vice simply sticking their head in the sand. Unfortunately, in the past, MS has taken the ostrich approach and are now trying to undo the serious damage they've already caused with that type of policy. They have a long way to go on several fronts to fix so many of their problems.

I didn't catch those other poster's comments so I would have to look back and see what that entailed.

For some of the other posters' criticism on calling this hypocrisy for conservatives to favor this and calling it big gov't and the like - I think they are confusing being conservative with being libertarian. Conservatives favor a small central gov't and returning power to the local gov't (state); Libertarians are more in favor of small gov't in all aspects of gov't.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That is disgusting to refer to the birth of a child as "crotch fruit" - Never hear of such a hateful term. As for young fathers- If they do not step up to the plate and at least acknowledge there own children- It is a good idea to out these little goofs. Support of the child should not be made the key factor..that can come later...but a child needs a father....It is better that the child have a "dead beat" father than none.
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I believe that you do forfeit some rights when living off of the state.

Want to keep your privacy? Keep your legs together, unless you can provide for yourself and your child.
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If you are making crotch fruit with an underage girl, then there's a good chance you will end up in the system sooner or later.
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Should I have used **** trophy instead?
Notice how righties have this love affair with charming local colloquialisms? I wish I could count how many times I've seen 'keep your legs together' on this debate forum.

The level of discourse continues to fall.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I am not sure if this law will have any impact but it's good to see them at least trying to be proactive about the problem vice simply sticking their head in the sand. Unfortunately, in the past, MS has taken the ostrich approach and are now trying to undo the serious damage they've already caused with that type of policy. They have a long way to go on several fronts to fix so many of their problems.
The solution to their problem in this case (supposing it is a major problem, which I'm not at all sure about) is comprehensive, rational sex education. That doesn't sell in the Bible Belt, so "let's lock more people up" is the default choice.

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For some of the other posters' criticism on calling this hypocrisy for conservatives to favor this and calling it big gov't and the like - I think they are confusing being conservative with being libertarian. Conservatives favor a small central gov't and returning power to the local gov't (state); Libertarians are more in favor of small gov't in all aspects of gov't.
Largely true, but it's the conservatives who like to deliberately conflate the two positions in order to get independents to swallow their Bible-beating agenda.
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:25 AM
 
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Haha. You honestly think that these men want to be in the child's life? They don't! Every mother that has a birth and doesn't list the father has a damn good reason for doing so. These children still run the same chance of being on government aid because chances are the father will be a deadbeat. Only in your dream world, he will be a deadbeat and the children will be exposed to him.
Yeah sure, you assume EVERYONE comes from the same negative trip you came from ?


BTW you can protest all you want I'm sure your 1 vote will really mean something LOL !!!
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:28 AM
 
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What if she's raped and doesn't know who the father is?
Then the DNA might help solve the case in the future, haven't you heard about familial DNA solving crimes ?DNA Forensics: Familial searches allows law enforcement to identify criminals through their family members
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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These men still won't pay a dime of child support. I promise you. That is the reality of the world we live in.
but if they impregnated a teenage girl and they are grown men they need to be in prison. they are pedophiles.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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but if they impregnated a teenage girl and they are grown men they need to be in prison. they are pedophiles.
Pedophilia is the attraction to pre-teens

Being attracted to 17 year olds may be creepy, but it's not pedophilia.
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