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Old 08-04-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Why do people keep voting for Republcans if they know Republicans aren't fiscally conservative?

It's s fair question, seeing as how these same people always have something to say about blacks voting for Democrats. Meanwhile, they keep voting for a party that isn't conservative by any stretch. Not fiscally anyway.
They vote for Republicans as the lesser of two evils.... While the republicans are NOT conservative by any stretch of the imagination, they are more conservative than democrats. As much as I don't like it, we have basically a 2 party system. Both of which are intent on picking the pockets of the american taxpayer by one means or another. Neither party is willing to participate in reducing the size and scope of the federal government because they are enriched by growing the government.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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We had conservatism between the years 2000 to 2008, wasn't that good enough? Didn't it work out as intended? We funded the war machine {good for our economy} and overthrew a couple of dictators and spread democracy, created lots n lots of jobs, jobs, jobs, and I see people clambering for more conservatism. Isn't this great, or what?
It was not Conservatism, it was Neo Conservatism which is just statistm with a upper case R in Front of it..
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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What's a true conservative? And why aren't you trying to get them elected now?
"What's a true conservative?' Why do you care? You wouldn't ever vote for anyone with an R next to their name.

" And why aren't you trying to get them elected now?'

Why do you ask ignorant questions?
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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What's a true conservative?
I would like to know what you think a true conservative is.
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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I not only think it has a chance it is driven by the reality of unsustainable reality. We also see it in Europe even more as they have gone to near edge of unsustainable and many have actually had economies collapse in real terms.
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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Going forward, will a president with fiscal conservative ideas ever get elected?

When I see candidates like Gary Johnson receive an astounding 1% of the vote, I think not.

History suggests that it is very rare for governments to willingly shrink, so I think the ship has sailed on this one.
yes a true fiscal conservative can win the white house, however they must also avoid social issues and keep the narrative on the fiscal issues. but also note that even fiscal conservatives, like reagan and eisenhower, had to compromise with congress to get things done when they got into office, and both have since been excoriated by the liberals for not being conservative, the same way obama, a true marxist, is being excoriated by the liberals for not being liberal enough, again because he has to compromise with the conservatives and moderates in his OWN party.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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They vote for Republicans as the lesser of two evils.... While the republicans are NOT conservative by any stretch of the imagination, they are more conservative than democrats. As much as I don't like it, we have basically a 2 party system. Both of which are intent on picking the pockets of the american taxpayer by one means or another. Neither party is willing to participate in reducing the size and scope of the federal government because they are enriched by growing the government.
Really?

So for example, how was Bush more conservative than Obama?
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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Really?

So for example, how was Bush more conservative than Obama?
obama started with what bush did, and doubled and in some cases tripled down. obama spent far more money, and instead of a program that spies on foreign calls, obama is doing it with domestic calls. that is just two examples.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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obama started with what bush did, and doubled and in some cases tripled down. obama spent far more money, and instead of a program that spies on foreign calls, obama is doing it with domestic calls. that is just two examples.
Obama is a bigger spender than Bush? Really now?
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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Obama is a bigger spender than Bush? Really now?
bush spent 5 trillion in eight years, obama has spent more than 6 trillion in four years, so oyu tell me, is obama a bigger spender than bush?
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