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Old 08-12-2013, 09:16 AM
 
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Blah, blah, blah
You can't rebut. The facts I've posted are indisputable. Got it.

 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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You can't rebut. The facts I've posted are indisputable. Got it.
Yeah, so indisputable that 201 judges have rejected them. Cling to your delusions, IC. It's all you have.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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Says you.
No. The US State Dept says so:

"In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes."
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Yeah, so indisputable that 201 judges have rejected them.
First it's 22, now it's 201. You're clearly confused.

Break through the cloud of confusion and show me where any of the cases have discovered the inaccuracy of the WKA passage on which the ONE decision was based, the USCIS document stating one can be either a native-born citizen or a natural-born citizen, etc., etc.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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When there IS an option of either because either are available as the circumstances fit, there IS an implied "instead of."

Both options available. Only one applies.
Only in InformedConsent's world.

If you use oranges in the fruit salad, you are still using a citrus fruit.

If you restore someone's citizenship that was native-born, that native-born citizenship is also natural-born citizenship.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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Only in InformedConsent's world.

If you use oranges in the fruit salad, you are still using a citrus fruit.
Unfortunately for you, "citizen" isn't the Constitutional requirement. One must be a "natural born citizen" and the USCIS clearly indicates that one can be a native born citizen but not a natural born citizen.
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If you restore someone's citizenship that was native-born, that native-born citizenship is also natural-born citizenship.
That's not what the USCIS says:

"restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired."
Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship

OR

WHICHEVER EXISTED

Both options available. Only one applies.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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No. The US State Dept says so:

"In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes."
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf
What branch of government does the State Department belong to?

Hint: The legislative branch makes laws, and the judiciary branch rules on the Constitutionality of laws. The executive branch enforces laws, but in the process of enforcing those laws, none of its decisions can be said to make law or to interpret the Constitution.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Unfortunately for you, "citizen" isn't the Constitutional requirement. One must be a "natural born citizen" and the USCIS clearly indicates that one can be a native born citizen but not a natural born citizen.
Only in InformedConsent's world. "Indicates" to you. Doesn't say it. Just "indicates" it for people who want to read meanings into remarks that aren't there. You think you can offer up an opinion, and that makes it true. Your arrogance is remarkable.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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What branch of government does the State Department belong to?

Hint: The legislative branch makes laws, and the judiciary branch rules on the Constitutionality of laws. The executive branch enforces laws, but in the process of enforcing those laws, none of its decisions can be said to make law or to interpret the Constitution.
That's exactly why Obama's purported POTUS eligibility is in doubt. It has NOT been adequately examined. Too many sources indicate Constitutional ineligibility.
 
Old 08-12-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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Only in InformedConsent's world. "Indicates" to you. Doesn't say it. Just "indicates" it for people who want to read meanings into remarks that aren't there.
Your logic fails, spectacularly.

This or that, whichever you had before...

"restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired."
Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship

OR

WHICHEVER EXISTED

Both options available. Only one applies.
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