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1. Katrina was far worse than BP oil spill; economically, structurally(response) and the lose of human life.
arguing to the contrary shows you have either no idea what you are talking about, or are so blinded by your hate of President Obama that you dont care that you are wrong.
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Yes, Katrina was worse than the oil spill. However, the federal response to FEMA was not delayed due any federal policies. It was delayed because the idiot mayor of New Orleans, along with the idiot governor of Louisiana, failed to declare a state of emergency when they should have and hindered the federal response.
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2. Income has not declined. saying it has insinuates that people are having their pay cut and that just isnt true. You said yourself that the more part time people were hired, do you not know how averages work ?
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That's an interesting position, because math disagrees with you. If you were working 39 hours a week and had your hours cut to 29 hours a week due to an idiotic "reform" law that actually reforms nothing, your income went down. If the company you worked for went under due to the lack of true economic recovery that we've experienced for the past 5 years and you had to take a part time job because nothing else was available, your income went down. And don't forget the enormous number of people who were previously employed and are still employable but are no longer considered unemployed because their unemployment benefits ran out. They're still unemployed, which means their income went down in a big way.
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3. I have seen nothing that shows personal savings have dropped that low. And no, im not just going to take your word for it.
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Research is your friend. Personal savings have gone down, personal wealth has gone down, personal financial worth has gone down. Not just for a few people, but for a large segment of the American population.
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4. This is a moronic argument, the unemployment rate in the late 20's early 30's peaked over 20%. Arguing in pure numbers is stupid because of population growth. Unemployment in 1981 was only 10%(less than half the Depression) but more people were actually unemployed in 1981 because the population was 100 million more.
That is the argument you are making right now and it is stupid.
5.Refer to #4
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You get half credit. Percentage wise, the unemployment rate is not as high as it was during the depression. However, it is much higher than the 7%-8% that is being touted by the administration. Anyone who can't figure out that the numbers have been cooked is either unable or unwilling to think critically. In your case, with your vehement disdain for anyone who calls Obama out, I'd say it's a matter of being unwilling.
None of that changes the fact that welfare spending has gone up by over 30% during Obama's administration, even while he's been touting this so-called recovery.
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6. Both part time and full time jobs are being created. You people pretend like there were not more part time jobs than full time jobs before the Recession.
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The definition of part-time and full-time has changed, however. Before, part-time was considered to be anything under 40, which means that many people were taking home more on part-time hours than their counterparts working full-time. Now part-time is 29 or less, which creates a whole new set of problems for the working class.
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7. If you have a problem with a Drone being used to kill terrorist simply because it is a drone, then why in the hell are you not against the use of guns as well ?
This is the fakest of all your conservative outrage. before drones we would just be sending our guys over there to kill them. So what is it about Drones that is pissing you conservatives off ? is it the supposed hypocrisy argument ? It cant be the US citizens part because we have had soldiers kill US citizens who were terrorist. So why the fake outrage .... Or is it real outraged based on something illogical ?
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I have a problem with drones being used for any purpose other than surveillance, and even then they shouldn't be flying over U.S. soil spying on U.S. citizens. Every single member of our government is employed by
us. How would you like it if your employees started spying on you?
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8. President Bush did an interview saying he was proud of the NSA program HE CREATED.
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Ah, the "it's all Bush's fault" argument. Because we aren't supposed to expect a better job from the current president than we got from the last one.
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9. Neither are scandals. the IRS targeted both liberal groups and conservative groups. The problems you cons have is based on there being a list of trigger words. You keep calling Benghazi a scandal but have nothing to back it up.
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And how many liberal groups were put through a 3 year wait to get their papers, while being subjected to 'extra special' attention from the FBI?
Interesting, CNN is even reporting that the entire story which the administration tried to pass off on the public at the time of Benghazi was a complete fabrication.
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10. Again another Bush Program, Hell you guys are still repeating the lie that border patrol agents were killed with F&F guns and that isnt even true.
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I don't care whose program it was, and I don't care if the people killed by F&F guns were border patrol, Mexican nationals, or homeless people on the street. Two wrongs don't make a right, and what the government attempted to do was illegal.
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11. There is no war on coal
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There is a war against any continuation of fossil fuel energy. Pay attention.
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12. That is false as well, there is LESS drilling on federal lands but drilling overall is actually up.
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And why is there less drilling on federal lands?
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13. Obamacare is a good thing, this was a #FAIL on your part though.
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Obamacare is the crappiest piece of legislation to come out of D.C. in my lifetime, and that's saying a lot. If it was such a great thing, why are so many portions of it being held off until after the mid-terms? Why are so many labor unions - the bastion of liberal power - calling for exemptions from the requirements?
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14. What Regulations ?
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Research. It's what you should do before posting. Here's a place to start:
New EPA Regulations Mean Higher Gas Prices
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15. Cities have been going bankrupt for a long time, not a single state has.
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The bankruptcy of Detroit after we, the American taxpayers, were coerced into dumping billions of dollars into saving its failing auto industries is a slap in the face.
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16. LMFAO, How did he expand any war ?
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Well, we weren't killing Libyan and Afghan children with drones on an epic scale before he got started, were we?
I appreciate your loyalty to what is obviously a failed president, but at least be honest when you try to defend him.
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