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Old 08-07-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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We can employ everyone in the U.S. if we eliminate all technology.

We can then go back to the days when 80% worked in agriculture to produce a surplus to feed the 20% who did not.

 
Old 08-07-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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population is exploding and poverty will increase.
There's no way around it.

Too many people and not enough resources (jobs, food, housing, you name it).
 
Old 08-07-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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Bet we would have much lower rates of obesity and a happier more engaged population if we did that
Farming sucks. Seriously. If you have 80% farming to feed themselves and an additional non-farming 20%, do all in your power to become one of the 20%.
 
Old 08-07-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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Ok, but pretty much everything you do online is stored in a cloud server somewhere. You can store all the mp3s you want on your hard drive. The government can still look at your email, your shopping history, your facebook posts, your online forum postings...
Of course they can. But that's different animal than personal data storage.
 
Old 08-07-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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One splitter at an AT&T office and they don't need to touch anyone's server.
Room 641A people...NSA has a splitter running from the backbone.
That was whistleblower Mark Klein back in 2006.

Room 641A - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Don't forget this.
PRISM: Here's how the NSA wiretapped the Internet | Page 2 | ZDNet or those handy side-channel leaks.
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By tapping into the connection between the Tier 1 network and the edge connection, the NSA would be able to literally view and copy data transmitted over every single session from a user to an application in realtime, and then stored and processed appropriately.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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LOL.
NSA: All up in your privacy junk since 1952
 
Old 08-08-2013, 12:39 AM
 
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It's trivial...

Data mining was rampant before the cloud.

Eventually our thoughts will be mined in real time
And conservatives already have their own privacy mechanism.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by seattlenextyear View Post
Ok, but pretty much everything you do online is stored in a cloud server somewhere. You can store all the mp3s you want on your hard drive. The government can still look at your email, your shopping history, your facebook posts, your online forum postings...
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Of course they can. But that's different animal than personal data storage.
...and your banking/financials, real estate/domicile, autos/travel/transportation, hobbies/interests, food/alcohol consumption, taxes/business, medical (maybe...), education, occupation, religion/not, politics, charities/organizations, friends/family/neighbors/associates (and all their information), etc...

Maybe unless you stick to cash for most transactions?

What are things that will only be on personal storage?
 
Old 08-08-2013, 02:50 AM
 
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Ok, but pretty much everything you do online is stored in a cloud server somewhere. You can store all the mp3s you want on your hard drive. The government can still look at your email, your shopping history, your facebook posts, your online forum postings...
That is true, to a point. The average user can have privacy by using a proxy server or a deep web service, etc. For companies with a lot of data, it's not as easy.

Still, there are plenty of low-tech solutions people often overlook. I heard a story of a company that didn't want a budget report getting in the wrong hands as it might effect their stock performance. After a long debate on the best way to send the data only to those who they wanted to see it what did they finally do? You guessed it: they printed it and mailed it.

A kid in his laptop in Singapore or a hacker in Nigeria can't easily get into an American mail room.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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It's just much harder to sort out the bits and bytes on a hard-wired mainframe connection than it is from an internet broadband stream to a centralized data repository.
Not anymore it isn't.
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