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Old 11-15-2007, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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That's retarded. Oh wait--or is retarded un-PC?
the term "retarded" is considered offensive. The new term is "Developly disabled".
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:04 AM
 
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the term "retarded" is considered offensive. The new term is "Developly disabled".
Oh, the term is perfectly acceptable in a few psychology circles. It's out of vogue in education, but some old-school shrinks still use the term.

Either way, as a slang term it's a little lacking. I don't think SmerkyGirl was referring to anyone with a physical or mental disability.

Who cares, right? See, I don't think anyone shouldn't have the RIGHT to say "retarded", but, as someone with a family member who has Down's Syndrome, I do wish people would get more creative with their language and let the term die as slang. Just as a matter of taste.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:31 PM
 
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Basically, all folks have to be is a little observant of other folks. Is that so hard? One thing I have found in life is that people have a right to determine what name they want to go by. All one has to do is ask. That doesn't seem too hard.

I really am tired of people moaning about political correctness. Some basic manners is not too much to ask. "Illiegal immigrant"? That's like saying "illegitimate child". How can a person's existence be illegal? Who passed a law against it?

All that is necessary is a little sensitivity. Plus, you get to not sound like a hayseed.
they are terms that describe the situation. if you don't like it, don't say it, but that does not mean that they are not real terms. illegal immigrant means that they have immigrated to this country illegally, as opposed to legally. i guess hayseeds have to explain everything. sheesh!
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:40 PM
 
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they are terms that describe the situation. if you don't like it, don't say it, but that does not mean that they are not real terms. illegal immigrant means that they have immigrated to this country illegally, as opposed to legally. i guess hayseeds have to explain everything. sheesh!

Something that I have always thought of about anchor babies, If 2 people who do not exist in the eyes of the law produce a child, doesnt that child also not exist?
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Something that I have always thought of about anchor babies, If 2 people who do not exist in the eyes of the law produce a child, doesnt that child also not exist?

And if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise?
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:20 PM
 
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And if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise?
You mean if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is present to hear it does it make a noise? What about the animals in the woods, they would hear it. So yes, the tree makes a noise.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:44 PM
 
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You mean if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is present to hear it does it make a noise? What about the animals in the woods, they would hear it. So yes, the tree makes a noise.
But how do you know the animals hear it?
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Something that I have always thought of about anchor babies, If 2 people who do not exist in the eyes of the law produce a child, doesnt that child also not exist?
To answer your question: No. The first sentence of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution states:

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All persons born [emphasis added] or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Therefore, anyone born in the US, regardless of the legal status of their parents, are automatically US citizens and citizens of the state where they were born. Currently there is a proposed amendment pending in Congress that would alter that sentence in the 14th Amendment so that at least one parent must be a US citizen (born or naturalized) or a legal resident in the US before their offspring can be considered a US citizen. However, I do not anticipate that the amendment will ever reach the floor for a vote, much less get the two-thirds of the votes required before it goes to the state legislatures for ratification.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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To answer your question: No. The first sentence of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution states:



Therefore, anyone born in the US, regardless of the legal status of their parents, are automatically US citizens and citizens of the state where they were born. Currently there is a proposed amendment pending in Congress that would alter that sentence in the 14th Amendment so that at least one parent must be a US citizen (born or naturalized) or a legal resident in the US before their offspring can be considered a US citizen. However, I do not anticipate that the amendment will ever reach the floor for a vote, much less get the two-thirds of the votes required before it goes to the state legislatures for ratification.
Im sure a lawyer could find a loophole in that particular amendment.
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