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Old 08-10-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Most priests I know, barely leave their church. And if they do, it is to attend a fundraiser or go on vacation.
Then, you don't know many Priests!
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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...God haters, stay off this thread.
So, asking a perfectly reasonable, honest, direct, simple, logical question makes someone a "God hater?"

What god do you suppose I am "hating" on? Odin? Vishnu? Cthulhu? Yahweh? Apollo?

What a ridiculous thing for you to say.

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...not a chance with the God haters, they're like ticks on a dog.
Again, so not automatically defaulting to the belief that some supernatural entity is behind some alleged event makes a person a "God hater?"

Talk about knee-jerk reactionaries. Sheesh.

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I was taught that there are lessons our souls must learn and sometimes the only way to learn them is through pain. That explanation works for me but probably won't for you. Just thought you'd like to know why we believers don't see it as a disconnect.
What lesson did this poor young lady learn from almost being killed?

I'll tell you what I see as a disconnect--the idea so many people seem to have that some invisible supernatural deity (or one of its minions/Earth operatives) is responsible for any good, positive thing that happens, but never responsible for anything unfortunate or negative.

It's like people around where I live who, after encountering a tornado, will say something like "Well, I lost my house, my dog and my wife, but THANK GOD my child and my truck were saved!"

Wouldn't it be more reasonable to give thanks for not having half your life destroyed by a tornado in the first place?

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You just perfectly, 100% explained 0bamabotfreaks. Spot on.
Now you know exactly why we laugh at them.
Okay. So now anyone questioning whether this was some miraculous, angelic, supernatural event is not only a "God hater" but some kind of liberal cretin/Obama worshiper. Gotcha.

(And you folks wonder why some of us view the "logic" used by certain posters here as seriously flawed?)

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it can be said it was a minor miracle that the girl survived the crash given how serious the crash was and her major injuries.
And yet, how much better it would have been in every way for the crash to have just not happened in the first place.

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Maybe it will become a life changing event for all to see the true Grace of God ?
Again, which god? Do you mean Yahweh? Sems a strange way for a supposedly omniscient, omnipotent, all-loving deity to behave. "Hmm...this person doesn't seem to believe in my grace. I know--I'll nearly kill her in a head-on collision! That'll get her!"

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She had her pray answered didn't she
Umm...

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There was no mention in the article about her prayer or anything remotely like that.
Is it a miracle that you know what she was thinking?
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...yes I believe in angels.Why do you not believe evil or the devil wasn't involved?
First off, I believe the Devil is a fictional, literary character. However this doesn't really involve a belief or lack of belief in gods, angels, demons, leprechauns or other supernatural entities. It concerns the automatic defaulting to the belief that something supernatural or miraculous occurred without having all the facts or considering other possibilities.

We call it "jumping to a conclusion."

Have you ever heard the expression "Don't go looking for unicorns until you've run out of ponies?"

Here's an example: Let's say I believe in ghosts/the spirit world. Even given this belief, would it make sense if I was absolutely convinced I left my coffee cup in a certain spot but discovered it somwhere else and proclaimed "It must have been a ghost who moved my coffee cup! What is it trying to tell me?!?!?"

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...Ever read the book of Job?
Yes, I am quite familiar with The Bible, having studied it my entire life. It might surprise you to learn I very nearly entered seminary at one point.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Why couldn't an "angel" have just prevented the collision in the first place?
The "Angels" were in Anaheim in the outfield playing baseball.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Because we have free will...
Can you explain what "free will" had to do with this incident?

Are you aware that "free will" cannot exist in the face of a deity who is omniscient and omnipotent?
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Here's the story of a Korean soldier who encountered St. Michael the
Archangel:
And a story is exactly what it is. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Does anyone here deny that a priest appeared to anoint the injured woman - in other words, everyone who claimed to see him is lying?
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Can you explain what "free will" had to do with this incident?

Are you aware that "free will" cannot exist in the face of a deity who is omniscient and omnipotent?
"Free Will" meaning that we're normally supposed to face the consequences of our actions and to not to is the exception not the rule.

The second part is absolutely not true and shows you have little understanding of metaphysics or theology.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Does anyone here deny that a priest appeared to anoint the injured woman - in other words, everyone who claimed to see him is lying?
I think its a hoaks.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I think its a hoaks.

Why would all these people decided to concoct a story about a priest anointing an injured woman?
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Why would all these people decided to concoct a story about a priest anointing an injured woman?
The same reason idiots post fake pics of heros on facebook. Morons eat it up. Then someone breaks down the story and finds the true facts.



Don't get me wrong I do believe something is out there and greater than we ever imagined. But seems unreal in this story.
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