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Old 08-13-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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How else does someone publicly oppose or support a policy?
Apparently words speak louder than actions for Obozo and his minions.

 
Old 08-13-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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Apparently words speak louder than actions for Obozo and his minions.
Is the Iraq War still going on?
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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The right-wing is freaked out by Hillary. Keep grasping those straws!
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The Washington Post reporter is right wing?
LOL. Yeah, that was a dumb statement. The comPost is about as leftwing as it gets.
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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Yeah. Really.


Don't be stupid. Liberals are already concerned about her age, and already are talking about it. But given the likely inability of the Republican party to get past their base nutburger faction and nominate a candidate that could avoid repulsing even the independent political center, it would be absurd to think that the actual liberals will vote for a young teapartier over an old hippie.

This is a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, and why the label of "hypocrite" stings conservatives so badly and yet rolls off the liberal back like water off a duck. Liberals don't merely have double standards, they have triple and quadruple standards. They understand that the world really is complex and that different circumstances demand different standards.

This is in contrast to the rigidity and simplistic reductionism of the conservative world view in which almost anything can be neatly broken down into binary opposites; good v. evil; black v. white; male v. female; up v. down. Conservatives rarely seem capable of counting higher than two. If it wasn't for false dichotomies, conservatives would fill far fewer threads on City-Data. And they consider ideological rigidity and refusal to change one's mind or compromise to be a virtue.

Liberals and moderates have a more nuanced view in which the conservative opposites are merely the extremes of a continuum with innumerable variations in between. Almost nothing in the real universe conforms neatly to the binary conservative view. Almost everything that is possible demands you settle for imperfect half measures somewhere in between. And as Oscar Wilde wrote, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

Do liberals and moderates change their minds in different circumstances? Of course we do. We are not idiots.

We leave the hand wringing and slef flagellation over "hypocrisy" to you guys.

Would give you a rep point for this but can't do more than two, either way right on with this statement !!
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why are you talking nasty stuff on here?
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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Weiner is the worst loose cannon, high profile Democrat since Thersa Heinz.

Boom Boom.

Anyone think he'll go away for the presidential primary season? Probably if they pay him.
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:05 PM
 
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Yeah. Really.


Don't be stupid. Liberals are already concerned about her age, and already are talking about it. But given the likely inability of the Republican party to get past their base nutburger faction and nominate a candidate that could avoid repulsing even the independent political center, it would be absurd to think that the actual liberals will vote for a young teapartier over an old hippie.

This is a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, and why the label of "hypocrite" stings conservatives so badly and yet rolls off the liberal back like water off a duck. Liberals don't merely have double standards, they have triple and quadruple standards. They understand that the world really is complex and that different circumstances demand different standards.

This is in contrast to the rigidity and simplistic reductionism of the conservative world view in which almost anything can be neatly broken down into binary opposites; good v. evil; black v. white; male v. female; up v. down. Conservatives rarely seem capable of counting higher than two. If it wasn't for false dichotomies, conservatives would fill far fewer threads on City-Data. And they consider ideological rigidity and refusal to change one's mind or compromise to be a virtue.

Liberals and moderates have a more nuanced view in which the conservative opposites are merely the extremes of a continuum with innumerable variations in between. Almost nothing in the real universe conforms neatly to the binary conservative view. Almost everything that is possible demands you settle for imperfect half measures somewhere in between. And as Oscar Wilde wrote, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

Do liberals and moderates change their minds in different circumstances? Of course we do. We are not idiots.

We leave the hand wringing and slef flagellation over "hypocrisy" to you guys.
Wow what a long-winded retort.

General rule of thumb: The more long-winded a person is about denying being a certain way, the more probability they're actually guilty of it.
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Yeah. Really.


Don't be stupid. Liberals are already concerned about her age, and already are talking about it. But given the likely inability of the Republican party to get past their base nutburger faction and nominate a candidate that could avoid repulsing even the independent political center, it would be absurd to think that the actual liberals will vote for a young teapartier over an old hippie.

This is a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, and why the label of "hypocrite" stings conservatives so badly and yet rolls off the liberal back like water off a duck. Liberals don't merely have double standards, they have triple and quadruple standards. They understand that the world really is complex and that different circumstances demand different standards.

This is in contrast to the rigidity and simplistic reductionism of the conservative world view in which almost anything can be neatly broken down into binary opposites; good v. evil; black v. white; male v. female; up v. down. Conservatives rarely seem capable of counting higher than two. If it wasn't for false dichotomies, conservatives would fill far fewer threads on City-Data. And they consider ideological rigidity and refusal to change one's mind or compromise to be a virtue.

Liberals and moderates have a more nuanced view in which the conservative opposites are merely the extremes of a continuum with innumerable variations in between. Almost nothing in the real universe conforms neatly to the binary conservative view. Almost everything that is possible demands you settle for imperfect half measures somewhere in between. And as Oscar Wilde wrote, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

Do liberals and moderates change their minds in different circumstances? Of course we do. We are not idiots.

We leave the hand wringing and slef flagellation over "hypocrisy" to you guys.

More nuanced view? IBTFL

Yet another self-proclaimed intellectually superior Leftist has been heard from.


Quote:
We are not idiots.

This is certainly debatable. Since Mr. Hopey Changey guy was able to pull the wool over your eyes twice anything is possible.
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Is the Iraq War still going on?
No, it ended on Bush's timetable after Obama's negotiations with the Iraqi government to keep our troops there failed.
 
Old 08-13-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Yeah. Really.


Don't be stupid. Liberals are already concerned about her age, and already are talking about it. But given the likely inability of the Republican party to get past their base nutburger faction and nominate a candidate that could avoid repulsing even the independent political center, it would be absurd to think that the actual liberals will vote for a young teapartier over an old hippie.

This is a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, and why the label of "hypocrite" stings conservatives so badly and yet rolls off the liberal back like water off a duck. Liberals don't merely have double standards, they have triple and quadruple standards. They understand that the world really is complex and that different circumstances demand different standards.

This is in contrast to the rigidity and simplistic reductionism of the conservative world view in which almost anything can be neatly broken down into binary opposites; good v. evil; black v. white; male v. female; up v. down. Conservatives rarely seem capable of counting higher than two. If it wasn't for false dichotomies, conservatives would fill far fewer threads on City-Data. And they consider ideological rigidity and refusal to change one's mind or compromise to be a virtue.

Liberals and moderates have a more nuanced view in which the conservative opposites are merely the extremes of a continuum with innumerable variations in between. Almost nothing in the real universe conforms neatly to the binary conservative view. Almost everything that is possible demands you settle for imperfect half measures somewhere in between. And as Oscar Wilde wrote, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

Do liberals and moderates change their minds in different circumstances? Of course we do. We are not idiots.

We leave the hand wringing and slef flagellation over "hypocrisy" to you guys.
Wow, somebodys been book learnin.
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