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"Both" in the sense that Liberals & Conservatives passed the DREAM Act & ACA b/c a few Conservatives breaking away from their party to vote for the Liberal agenda?
I'm sorry - I did not see any mention of the DREAM act in your original question.
With regards to Civil Rights, both parties had over 50% approval. Not so for the DREAM Act.
Liberals have done most of the momentous things in US history. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but liberals are the changers of society. Because of that, the opinions of liberals change over time. Lincoln was a liberal in 1860. Would he be one now? Who knows. He most likely would have been though.
If you can't figure out how to make sense of the two questions that everyone else seems to understand, then that's on you.
Three separate questions, requiring 3 different answers, but using a forum for opinions or fact finding? A simple Google search would suffice.
1. Was it Liberals or Conservatives that freed the slaves?
2. Was it Liberals or Conservatives that passed the Civil Rights Act
3. Was it Liberals or Conservatives that passed the Voting Rights Act
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Was it Liberals or Conservatives that freed the slaves?
Was it Liberals or Conservatives that passed the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, and ended segregation?
Are you denying that the Republican Party was founded on the principle of abolition of slavery?
Are you denying that the Democratic Party opposed abolition?
How would you get that from his post? He's saying this thread isn't about what parties did, it's about what liberals or conservatives did. But if it makes you feel better, yes, both statements are true.
Let's be very clear modern day conservatives have nothing to do with American history going back much past FDR.
Is that your stance when Conservatives mention that Republicans freed the slaves?
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Modern day conservatism is mostly a backlash movement that was formed to be in opposition to all the dramatic changes that have happened in this nation since FDR.
This is why conservatives are mostly anti- this or that. Modern American conservatism is the defined by who it perceives as its enemies and who it is against.
Historically, that's always been the catchall for Conservatism.
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Whereas generally speaking the Democratic party tries to serve all interests or at least represents itself as being interested in serving all interests, the conservative party makes definite choices.
It says screw unions,screw those interested in poverty, screw those interested in racial inequality, screw those interested in gender discrimination, screw those who are interested in immigrants, homosexual rights, the environment, etc and so on.
The conservative party says we are only going to represent these very narrow interests which we conservatives define as American interests and if you aren't on board with that then you are our enemy and you are out to destroy America.
You can't use Democratic & conservatism as posts in your argument. You're changing the scope of the discussion when you start adding in party names.
I'm sorry - I did not see any mention of the DREAM act in your original question.
With regards to Civil Rights, both parties had over 50% approval. Not so for the DREAM Act.
I was mocking your facetious use of "Both." Again, I didn't ask about political parties. I asked about Liberals vs Conservatives.
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