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Was it Liberals or Conservatives that passed the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, and ended segregation?
Definitely conservative Christians behind freeing the slaves, and not liberal atheists, same for the civil rights movement in the 1960s, that too was started by conservative Christians from within the churches.
Modern American conservatives were not around during slavery. It didn't exist as a political movement. Therefore conservatives saying they freed the slaves is nonsense.
Notice I am not saying liberals freed the slaves either. Even though this nation was founded on liberal principals, I think it is very difficult to say where someone like Abraham Lincoln would fit in modern political parties.
conservatives generally speaking hate Abraham Lincoln. You will get very, very, very few conservatives who claim Lincoln.
Definitely conservative Christians behind freeing the slaves, and not liberal atheists, same for the civil rights movement in the 1960s, that too was started by conservative Christians from within the churches.
conservatives rewriting history since the 1930's.
If anyone believes that likes of Rush Limbaugh led the fight to either slavery or the started the civil rights movement, words fail for how illogical that claim can be.
conservatives who have no connection to American history much past FDR are attempting to co-opt movements that they had nothing to do with on any level. Pathetic.
Why are liberals so obsessed with race that they have to keep starting threads like this?
How come they wish to divide people rather than be united?
How come liberals despise Dr. King's dream?
Liberals wish to live in the past rather than join the rest of us in the post-racial present.
"The post-racial present ...."
If that isn't a Depends moment, I don't know what is. Nothing sillier has ever been said on this forum.
In fact, this forum itself proves that America is nowhere near "post racial," and guess which posters double as Stormfront representatives? Not the libs, I assure you.
Of course, calling out racism, as liberals are inclined to do, has now been twisted by Cons to be called "racism" itself. It's a neat trick -- one which Harrier loves in particular and demonstrates here quite well -- but no one outside racist Cons pretend to believe it.
Democrats: 47- 16
Republicans: 30-2 In other words, 94% of Senate Republicans voted to pass it, but only 75% of Senate Dems did.
House
Democrats: 221-61
Republicans: 112 - 24 In other words, 82% of House Republicans voted to pass it, but only 78% of House Dems did.
CRA vote
Senate
Democrats: 46-21
Republicans: 27-6 In other words, 81% of Senate Republicans voted to pass it, but only 69% of Senate Dems did.
House
Democrats: 153-91
Republicans: 136 -35 In other words, 80% of House Republicans voted to pass it, but only 63% of House Dems did.
Clearly, Republicans favored these equal-rights bills more than Democrats did.
And, as anyone with a sixth-grade education knows, its was AFTER those votes, and BECAUSE OF those votes, that the racists fled the Democrats for the GOP that we know today as the party of racism.
Cons love to talk about LBJ and Robert Byrd. That, of course, is deliberately disingenuous. Those are Democrats of the old school BEFORE the emigration of racists away from the party, and before those two particular men evolved their views.
You really need to define your discussion better. The term "conservative" is meaningless without context. do you mean social conservative, Constitutional conservative, economic conservative, Christian conservative, Islamic conservative? Or do you really not know what the hell you are talking about, and are just tossing out words and phrases that look neat?
It is not a stance. It is a fact. Modern American conservatives hate Lincoln.
This is the reality for conservatives, they don't claim a modern President going all the way back to Hoover except Ronald Reagan.
This is why modern American conservatives have taken to distorting the founders. conservatives realize that they aren't really connected to America's past at all.
This nation is so conservative, but it never elects what modern conservatives would label as a conservative President.
According to conservatives it has happened once in the last 90 years? It doesn't make any sense. So conservatives have to reclaim and invent a connection to the founders.
Part of the problem is that modern Conservatives are insane, so of course the only President they'd identify w/ is the one who had some screws loose by the end.
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