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Old 08-01-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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Obama Says Keystone XL Will Create 50 Jobs; State Dept. Says 42,000 - Investors.com

Obama very well might be the most disingenuous president in my lifetime...constantly distorting with every speech in his never ending campaign.

He is literally downgrading his estimates of the jobs that the Pipeline would create speech by speech - while ignoring his own State Department's study that claims a significant amount of jobs would be created directly and indirectly.


This is the man that stretched 'ripple' effects throughout the economy creating permanent jobs when it came to his stimulus... He claimed that 4 permanent jobs were created by a one time $500,000 paint job of an Alaskan Airlines plane. Mind you, the plane already had a perfectly fine paint job, however, the new paint job made it look like a salmon! So painting a single plane once...a job that can easily be counted in hours....created 4 permanent jobs. There were these ripple effects through the economy, money spent on paint, the paint producing company has money that they spend, money paid to the painters, they spend the money, etc...

Now, Obama is not only flip flopping on his stimulus logic, he is deliberately ignoring that the pipeline will continuously carry oil to a refinery, where they will hire more people. That refined oil will be transported to market, where the transporters will need to hire more people, etc..etc... HIS OWN STATE DEPARTMENT STUDY AGREES TO THIS. Yet he ignores his own study and is now insisting...50 permanent jobs from the continuous flow of oil...only counting those who will maintain the small part of the line not under construction.

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Old 08-01-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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Obama is a lame duck 7 months into his second term. Nobody with a brain cares what he says anymore. Chances are good that whatever he says is a lie.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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Obama Says Keystone XL Will Create 50 Jobs; State Dept. Says 42,000 - Investors.com

Obama very well might be the most disingenuous president in my lifetime...constantly distorting with every speech in his never ending campaign.

He is literally downgrading his estimates of the jobs that the Pipeline would create speech by speech - while ignoring his own State Department's study that claims a significant amount of jobs would be created directly and indirectly.


This is the man that stretched 'ripple' effects throughout the economy creating permanent jobs when it came to his stimulus... He claimed that 4 permanent jobs were created by a one time $500,000 paint job of an Alaskan Airlines plane. Mind you, the plane already had a perfectly fine paint job, however, the new paint job made it look like a salmon! So painting a single plane once...a job that can easily be counted in hours....created 4 permanent jobs. There were these ripple effects through the economy, money spent on paint, the paint producing company has money that they spend, money paid to the painters, they spend the money, etc...

Now, Obama is not only flip flopping on his stimulus logic, he is deliberately ignoring that the pipeline will continuously carry oil to a refinery, where they will hire more people. That refined oil will be transported to market, where the transporters will need to hire more people, etc..etc... HIS OWN STATE DEPARTMENT STUDY AGREES TO THIS. Yet he ignores his own study and is now insisting...50 permanent jobs from the continuous flow of oil...only counting those who will maintain the small part of the line not under construction.
Who cares? The pipeline is already leaking and wreaking havoc...
Alberta Tar Sands Oil Is Already Flowing and Leaking Into the United States

Three Recent Oil Spills Leak Keystone XL’s Dirty Little Secret
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/04/...alled-oil.html
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Canada has just announced a west to east pipeline to a new marine refinery to be built by Irvine Oil.

This new pipeline is intended to handle a million barrels of crude per day to supply refineries in the eastern part of Canada that are currently buying crude from, you guessed it, OPEC. This will markedly change the footprint of our energy reliance on no one but ourselves for the foreseeable future.

The government of Canada has finally come to the realization that buying oil from OPEC was akin to Eskimos buying ice from Haiti.

This decision came about in no small part due to the continued waffling by Obama.

A great day for Canada which will eventually bring our product to the global market without being at the whim of the prevailing political climate of a foreign country.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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Who cares? The pipeline is already leaking and wreaking havoc...
Alberta Tar Sands Oil Is Already Flowing and Leaking Into the United States

Three Recent Oil Spills Leak Keystone XL’s Dirty Little Secret
Three Recent Oil Spills Leak Keystone XL's Dirty Little Secret
Are you being deliberately misleading or just ignorantly obtuse on purpose?

Your first link is crap because it refers to a 65 year old Exxon Mobile line leaking. NOT the Keystone.

Your last link is crap as those pipelines were also American pipelines with no affiliation to Keystone XL whatsoever and they may very well be over 40 year old pipelines your country has not been maintaining. The third spill mentioned was a freight train in Northern Ontario and what does rail transport within Canada have to do with pipelines in general and the Keystone in particular?

It makes sense to you that you would continue (and it will continue as long as you keep buying the stuff) the practice of shipping this type of crude either through older worn out lines or by rail car above ground rather than through a new pipeline built to the latest standards? Really?
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:26 PM
 
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Obama is a lame duck 7 months into his second term. Nobody with a brain cares what he says anymore. Chances are good that whatever he says is a lie.
He's consistently lied to the American people since day 1 in office.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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Regardless the keystone pipeline is coming. Even the Canadian government has called out Obama on the jobs numbers;I saw their minster do it the other night on national television. Right now Americans are paying a 14 dollar added cost per barrel because its being railroaded here now which is much more dangerous as we have seen. Even with the pipeline it will continue to be railroaded to the gulf cost. In time higher cost as economy improve that will force the issue by higher gasoline prices as world consumes more crude. As we go more and more to expensive oil recovery every dollar added really starts to show in price but in the end people will want assured supply. Many remember what just a 15% cut in crude sullies did in the 70's. besides which most release what the billions each year flowing out of America to unstable middle east does to the economy.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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That's great news. I don't want the pipeline coming through this country anyway.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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That's great news. I don't want the pipeline coming through this country anyway.
I can see why you'd draw the line on a brand new Canadian pipeline when you seem not to notice or even care about this:

map of older us pipelines - Google Search
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Obama does NOT want this country to do good. He wants us to be miserable. He and Michelle are angry people.
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