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Old 08-15-2013, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The National Security Agency has broken privacy rules or overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since Congress granted the agency broad new powers in 2008, according to an internal audit and other top-secret documents.

NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times per year, audit finds - The Washington Post


So much for integrity, honesty, and constitutionality
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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Breaking News: NSA Internet Spying Foils NSA Plot To Attack NSA
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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Default A nation without laws is a rudderless ship

Can we really consider the United States a first-world country any longer when the rule of law means nothing?

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James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, has acknowledged that the court found the NSA in breach of the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures, but the Obama administration has fought a Freedom of Information lawsuit that seeks the opinion.
Me and the lovely Mrs. Grizzmeister are thinking about moving down to Ecuador because the citizens of the US our too timid to demand that their government uphold The Bill of Rights.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:07 AM
 
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Obama broke thousands of those privacy rules... the buck stops there...
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:46 AM
 
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Can we really consider the United States a first-world country any longer when the rule of law means nothing?

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Me and the lovely Mrs. Grizzmeister are thinking about moving down to Ecuador because the citizens of the US our too timid to demand that their government uphold The Bill of Rights.
Absolutely disgusting beyond words what's happening.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:55 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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What's disgusting is the groundswell of rage about this that should be flying high right now is only a ripple of annoyance.
I'm so tired of the lame statement "well if you're not doing anything wrong then you've got nothing to worry about"
What's next and will it be too late to stop?
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:04 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Things get done by setting examples....
Time to get real serious about our individual liberty.

Snowden is proving to be the real patriot everyday that goes by, with our own government being exposed as the real traitor to freedom & personal liberty.

Article 5 of the second amendment!! Let us all be clear.

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Old 08-16-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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Not only is this government overreach, but clearly within the NSA there is a mindset that the overreach is completely okay. That's why the violations are increasing. It's not because the job is so complex (though the job IS extremely complex), or that the technology lends itself to overreach (though it DOES). It's because the people in charge are okay with mistakes that lead to violating Americans' privacy. Even the excuse, "it's metadata, not data" demonstrates their attitude. Metadata IS data, gigantic blocks of data. This is an agency that polices itself, and when violations happen, their attitude is, "oh, well, it can't be helped." The point of policing one's self is to prevent these violations from happening. Not to find excuses why the agency doesn't have to report its own violations.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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People don't understand that the "beast" must always be fed and over time it must be fed more and more.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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It's called incrementalism. Something liberals have derided as a vast right wing conspiracy theory for the past 3 decades and beyond.
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