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Old 08-15-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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He certainly took sides when he called for Mubarak to exit. But wait, that was when the Muslim Brotherhood was in the wings ready to take over.
He was wrong, then, too.

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Old 08-15-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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Obama supports the Muslim Brotherhood.

The majority of Egyptians don't.
Because he is a Communist atheist socialist liberal Muslim???
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Cancelling the war games with Egypt next month was not a "punishment", but a necessary move. If there was still civil unrest in Egypt by the time the war games rolled around, highly unlikely the Egyptian military would take a break to carry them out. Also, and surely this is important, regardless if the civil unrest continued or stopped, if there was a US military presence in Egypt and they were attacked during the training, they would have to defend themselves, officially putting US boots on the ground in Egypt. If that's what Obama's handlers figured out, they finally got something right.

More than likely the other countries that usually participate in Bright Star have or will cancel as well. I don't think Bright Star is on the top of Egypt's military list of things-to-do.
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:27 AM
 
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Obama took sides with the brudderhood and lost. Now he sits back and watches all hell break loose and will wait until the outcome this time before picking sides. Probably go back over and make a grand speech again............well maybe not as the folks in Egypt aren't swooning anymore.
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:19 AM
 
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He shouldn't.

[this is an internal matter]



It was an internal matter when the Muslim Brotherhood first gained power too.

Don't forget Libya and the ongoing Syrian saga too.
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Clearly this is the Muslim Brotherhood against a government more likely to be our Allie and Israel's Allie. His statement did not reflect much of anything as far as what is really going on there. The Muslim Brotherhood is a very radical Islamic group. They are killing innocent people, torching churches. How do you make a statement that is basically down the middle?

And not on topic, but shame on Rand Paul for basically siding with the Muslim Brotherhood as well. Im all for some libertarianism for domestic stuff, but a lot of these guys just dont get it when it comes to dangerous radicals.
Oh he's taken sides by supplying weapons. As seems to be a normal pattern of behavior for the most transparent administration in history he's taking sides covertly and lying to Americans about his position which is more likely than not the Bros.
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:24 AM
 
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He should take sides, our side.

Spend our money here at least until the MB is out of the political picture in Egypt.....if ever.
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Old 08-16-2013, 02:01 AM
 
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Obama has to work both sides so that if and when this situation is resolved he's on the winning side.

No different when companies make political donations to both parties. It's like taking out two insurance policies.

He won't condemn the Egyptian military that the US strongly supported for decades
He won't condemn the MB because of his obvious support to them. Hard to condemn the very people he's supplying weapons to in Syria.

He failed to address the violence against Christians and the churches being burned - that would be condemning the MB.
He failed to address or question the weapons that the MB possess. The US was supplying weapons to the MB in Syria, which weapons flowed into Egypt and the US continues to supply the MB weapons because they are the rebels trying to oust Assad. Did anyone see the videos of the MB with their AK-47s shooting at the police, military and civilians?? Does Obama really believe the MB claim that the military was raiding police stations, killed 46 police officers and dismembering 3 of them? That the military and police and killing each other?
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Obama took sides with the brudderhood and lost. Now he sits back and watches all hell break loose and will wait until the outcome this time before picking sides. Probably go back over and make a grand speech again............well maybe not as the folks in Egypt aren't swooning anymore.
Dear Leader will never again step foot on Egyptian soil. Time to interject Himself into some new crisis where He can't pick the winner.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I dont think he gets the picture yet. If he did, why come out with a down the middle type statement? Why give any thought to the idea, that the Muslim Brotherhood can be reasoned with? The MB will not be our Allies. They will not be Allies of Israel.

It seems to me, right now there is a clear good guy and bad guy. And the MB is not a part of the good guys. Show some leadership and strength and stand against the radical Islamists. Why is it so hard for him to do that right now?
Because he's a weak leader with no spine.
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