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Old 08-19-2013, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I think I would prefer to look at building 7 by who was the tenants there. What could have been done on the 25th floor with a few explosives if need be, now if your telling me a few cia and or rogue individuals with access to covert ops couldnt plant some explosives in some buildings with some planning and timing then they must be pretty terrible at their jobs.

List of tenants in Seven World Trade Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CIA, IRS all in this building. hmmm.
Yes, I'm inclined to agree. History shows us that no American has any reason to trust the CIA. It's best to just ignore people that are unable to think for themselves or question Government/authority at this point. At best, they are pragmatic and mostly trusting good people that find it inconceivable that The Secret Service, Corporate Media and our Federal Government would intentionally mislead the public on such a tragedy-which is perfectly understandable. I felt the same way at one point.

Also, The Securities and Exchange Commission was located in building 7 and documents related to the investigations of Enron and Worldcom were destroyed. Pretty f'n convenient, especially considering the financial corruption and collusion that would soon follow.

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Old 08-19-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Al Quaeda exists. The US created AQ. In 2009 AQ had about 300 members. However, with our indiscriminate use of terrorist drones AQ now numbers in the tens of thousands and grows with each drone strike.
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Al Quaeda exists. The US created AQ. In 2009 AQ had about 300 members. However, with our indiscriminate use of terrorist drones AQ now numbers in the tens of thousands and grows with each drone strike.
Mr. Obama says Al Qaeda has been decimated. Are you saying he is fibbing?

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Old 08-19-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Our fire fighters, police, and other rescue personnel continually act in areas of toxicity of one degree or another and we don't hear anything about excessive health or cancer incidents. However, with the hero's of 9/11, all came down with respiratory ailments, strange maladies, and cancer. For years our government refused to pay for medical care or disability.

What was it in the 9/11 disaster that affected these folks so terribly?


Government will fund care for 50 types of cancers linked to 9/11 under Zadroga Act - HealthPop - CBS News
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Our fire fighters, police, and other rescue personnel continually act in areas of toxicity of one degree or another and we don't hear anything about excessive health or cancer incidents. However, with the hero's of 9/11, all came down with respiratory ailments, strange maladies, and cancer. For years our government refused to pay for medical care or disability.

What was it in the 9/11 disaster that affected these folks so terribly?

broad brush there....only a few (mostly the ones who didn't listen and didn't wear masks) have problems....this first responder shows no problems yet

what was in the air?:

concrete dust
gypsum dust
aspestos dust
solvents
electrical/plastic/rubber toxins from burning
etc


a toxic soup....and we were told to wear dust masks...some did....some didn't
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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I think I would prefer to look at building 7 by who was the tenants there. What could have been done on the 25th floor with a few explosives if need be, now if your telling me a few cia and or rogue individuals with access to covert ops couldnt plant some explosives in some buildings with some planning and timing then they must be pretty terrible at their jobs.

List of tenants in Seven World Trade Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CIA, IRS all in this building. hmmm.
So? CIA has offices all over the country; IRS has offices all over the country. Oh, and WTC was in the main business district of New York. Care to tell us why a business wouldn't want to be in the HEART of a business district?

CIA, IRS.. and what about the hundred other business that were just....private businesses? Yes, they outnumber the "spooky" businesses...

And you haven't heard of outside backups. So what if those "offices" were there. The information they held, or worked with are always backed up off site.


Truthers, forever grasping at straws.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Al Quaeda exists. The US created AQ. In 2009 AQ had about 300 members. However, with our indiscriminate use of terrorist drones AQ now numbers in the tens of thousands and grows with each drone strike.

this is not even close to being true.

Amazon.com: The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 (9781400030842): Lawrence Wright: Books

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A gripping narrative that spans five decades, The Looming Tower explains in unprecedented detail the growth of Islamic fundamentalism, the rise of al-Qaeda, and the intelligence failures that culminated in the attacks on the World Trade Center. Lawrence Wright re-creates firsthand the transformation of Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri from incompetent and idealistic soldiers in Afghanistan to leaders of the most successful terrorist group in history. He follows FBI counterterrorism chief John O’Neill as he uncovers the emerging danger from al-Qaeda in the 1990s and struggles to track this new threat. Packed with new information and a deep historical perspective, The Looming Tower is the definitive history of the long road to September 11.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Building 7 was farther away from WTC 1&2 than other buildings in that complex. Other buildings sustained more damage. Why didn't they fall?
Lemme give you an analogy that you might be able to understand.

Let's say that you're standing somewhere - a parking lot or whatever. There's two people nearby. One is right in front of you, and the other is 100 yards away.

The guy in front of you gives you an awesome beating. He breaks both your arms, gives you two black eyes, bruises your kidneys and breaks your nose and jaw. You're messed up bad, but you're still standing. Now the guy who's 100 yards away puts a bullet through your knee.

Which attacker did more damage? Which attacker made you fall?

The idiocy of the truther's arguments when it comes to bldg 7 is unbelievable. They try to use the most childish comparisons with absolutely ZERO basis in science to substantiate their claims. You're claiming that because other buildings that didn't fall were closer, building 7 couldn't have fallen due to the damage it sustained. How incredibly stupid does one have to be to make that claim???
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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@arus
^^My how defensive. Hope your masters pay you well.

And please stop posting about NIST . Have already read them. Plus I know some1 who was at the pentagon- and stop using the script of 'shaming the victims' are u from letsroll, or jref ?

It is healthy to question the govt agenda on 911 because HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS have died in subsequent wars. As citizens who had kids sent to IRAQ and Afghanistan, we have a RIGHT to know.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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@arus
^^My how defensive. Hope your masters pay you well.
typical truther. can't address the facts so attacks the poster. Defensive? Please. 12 years and you still grasp on to the lies.

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And please stop posting about NIST . Have already read them.
It's obvious you didn't, because IF YOU DID, you wouldn't be posting 911 truther lies.

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Plus I know some1 who was at the pentagon- and stop using the script of 'shaming the victims' are u from letsroll, or jref ?
The Pentagon is not at the issue. The issue is the lies you are spouting about the WTC towers.

I also know someone who worked across the street of the Pentagon on the morning of 9/11. Tit for tat?

Care to explain how my high school friend died on 9/11. she was a passenger on AA Flight 11. We didn't know until the passenger list was released.

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It is healthy to question the govt agenda on 911 because HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS have died in subsequent wars. As citizens who had kids sent to IRAQ and Afghanistan, we have a RIGHT to know.
Yes it's healthy, but your using questions that have no basis in reality.
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