Two priests robbed at gunpoint in Miami...Score another one for "diversity" (ethic, drugs)

[jasper12]

Where is the neighborhood watch when you need them?

[Gtownoe]

The Higher crime rates could be due to the drug trade. The only stable economy in some neighborhoods.

Many black men have had their futures tarnished due to drug laws.

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by burdell

The same can be said of Enron execs.

You don't see the difference between a violent stickup and blue collar crime? Really?!

[Gtownoe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua

You don't see the difference between a violent stickup and blue collar crime? Really?!

You mean white collar crime.


How many lives have been ruined due to the financial crisis? Are the 2 priests ok?


I'd say the fraud had a much broader impact. The suspects were never punished.

[Oleg Bach]

Watched a bit of the video and the way one of the robbers walked struck me as weird...His body language was one of sheer pride and arrogance...He struts like some idiot thinking that what he is about to do is so cool....I do admire one of the priests who refused to grovel on the ground..refused to give up a few bucks and said to the robber "Shoot me"....I guess the idiot was unfamiliar with faith and the confidence it provides....I wonder what the fool must have thought..."This guy would rather die than submit to me and my gun....what the hell is that about?"

What these idiots did not realize was if they would have approached the priests and said...I* am hungry can you give me a few dollars....They probably would have gotten the money with out having to face a 20 year prison term- Not very smart.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by MattOTAlex

Here is raw data.

White Homicide victims and Race of Offenders:
Black Offenders on White Victims: 13.44%
White Offenders on White Victims: 83.4%

Black Homicide Victims and Race of Offenders:
White Offenders on Black Victims: 8.01%
Black Offenders on Black Victims: 90.4%

Whites comprise 72.4% of the US population and comprised 47.6% of all 2010 homicide offenders

Blacks comprise 12.6% of the US population and comprised 45.9% of all 2010 homicide offenders

Source: 2010 FBI Statistics, Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

"Disproportionately Over Represented" means that the race has more arrests than otherwise would be expected, based on population distribution.

Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter:
White 49.31% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 48.71% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Forcible rape:
White 65.65% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.77% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Robbery:
White 43.28% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 54.98% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Aggravated assault:
White 63.72% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 33.51% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Burglary:
White 67.42% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 30.80% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Larceny-theft:
White 68.87% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 28.27% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Motor vehicle theft:
White 63.33% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 34.00% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Arson:
White 75.20% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Over Represented)
Black 22.56% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Arson - Violent crime:
White 59.33% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 38.14% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Arson - Property crime:
White 68.42% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 28.92% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Other assaults:
White 65.64% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.68% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Forgery and counterfeiting:
White 66.35% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.96% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Fraud:
White 65.96% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 32.24% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Embezzlement:
White 66.26% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.22% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Stolen property; buying, receiving, possessing:
White 65.17% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 33.05% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Vandalism:
White 73.74% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Over Represented)
Black 23.50% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Weapons; carrying, possessing, etc.:
White 58.22% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 40.11% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Prostitution and commercialized vice:
White 54.32% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 42.37% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Sex offenses (except forcible rape and prostitution):
White 73.77% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Over Represented)
Black 23.49% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Drug abuse violations:
White 66.65% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.85% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Gambling:
White 28.75% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 67.51% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Offenses against the family and children:
White 66.30% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.21% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Driving under the influence:
White 85.70% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Over Represented)
Black 11.50% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Under Represented)

Liquor laws:
White 83.11% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Over Represented)
Black 11.97% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Under Represented)

Drunkenness:
White 82.23% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Over Represented)
Black 15.17% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Disorderly conduct:
White 63.56% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 33.85% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Vagrancy:
White 56.92% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 40.13% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

All other offenses (except traffic):
White 66.21% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 31.03% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Curfew and loitering law violations:
White 59.67% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 72.40% (Disproportionately Under Represented)
Black 38.06% of total arrests, vs. Percent of Population 12.60% (Disproportionately Over Represented)

Source: FBI Arrests by Race 2010 - Table 43

We've heard this over and over. It's nothing new. I suspect the only reason you are posting this is to complain about Blacks. It isn't solving any problems. Present something that might actually solve some problems.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Rick Roma

Just because you didn't like the answer doesn't mean it's not true. Sorry

Actually, you didn't answer my question. I asked you "How does one's race make them prone to commit crimes"? HOW does one's race make them become a criminal? You aren't answering it,you are merely sidestepping the question.

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by Rick Roma

The excuse of poverty causing crimes gets more pathetic every day. These thugs aren't out there stealing for rent or grocery money.

By your logic, minorities with an education and a great job are out there robbing people too, and white people don't commit crimes. That's complete baloney. When I lived in the Ozarks, there was a lot of really desperate rural poverty, AND a lot of drug use, meth labs and other types of crime. That population was about 99.9% white. Try again.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by jazzarama

The society has been "addressing the problem and looking for solutions to solve the problem" for decades. Whatever those 'root causes' are, poverty, inept parenting, low education, high unemployment, etc., victims are still victims. While those intractable conditions exist, I'll take the simplest general way to avoid crime --- stereotyping.

Society has not been addressing the problem. Society has merely been throwing bones at the problem. Welfare isn't working. Prison is not working the way it should. There have been no lasting solutions. Just short-time fixes. Yes victims are victims. I've been a crime victim myself, at the hands of both Black men and White men. Stereotyping doesn't solve any problems either. It provides no lasting solution. And it certainly does not help this Black man(me). I have a hard enough time without having to deal with people like you.

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by Gtownoe

You mean white collar crime.


How many lives have been ruined due to the financial crisis? Are the 2 priests ok?


I'd say the fraud had a much broader impact. The suspects were never punished.

Yes, I meant white collar crime.

I'd rather have my life savings stolen from me than my life. No contest there.

Comparing the two is stupid.