Immigration or Invasion? (Mexicans, illegal aliens, borders, Obama)

[All American NYC]

So which is it?

What we insist on calling “immigration” from the Third World to Western European countries like Britain is a historically new phenomenon, for which a case can be made that other, more appropriate terms should be used — like “colonization” and “invasion.”...From Wikipedia: The official United Nations definition of ethnic cleansing is “rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group.”....Terry Martin has defined ethnic cleansing as “the forcible removal of an ethnically defined population from a given territory” and as “occupying the central part of a continuum between genocide on one end and nonviolent pressured ethnic emigration on the other end.”

[SourD]

invasion for sure.

[HappyTexan]

More like a page from "The Camp of the Saints" if you ask me.

Third world mass migration comes to life 40 years after this book came out.

[All American NYC]

It also falls along the lines of ethnic cleansing.

European native populations are being replaced because many locals

Most of the leading academic geographers did not expect London to become a majority minority city for another 20 or 30 years – they underestimated the extent to which white British people have opted to leave an increasingly diverse London,” says Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck College who is leading a project on “white flight” at Demos, the think-tank I lead.

[urbanlife78]

No, it is still just immigration.

[pch1013]

The Mexicans can't even do an invasion right.

Net Immigration From Mexico Falls To Zero - Possibly Less - NationalJournal.com

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by pch1013

The Mexicans can't even do an invasion right.

Net Immigration From Mexico Falls To Zero - Possibly Less - NationalJournal.com

According to what I have read illegal immigration and asylum seekers from Mexico and others from south of our border is up not down. With Obama's promised amnesty they are flooding our borders once again. Even if that weren't true there are already millions of them here illegally (including millions of their anchor babies) that haven't left so I would say that the invasion was a success. It certainly will be complete if amnesty is granted. We amnestied 3 million back in 1986 and it brought in at least quadruple that number to date. Get my drift about the future?

[softblueyz]

[Little-Acorn]

An "invasion" usually refers to large numbers of people or things that enter an area where they are not wanted and not invited. Often with in intent, or result, of doing things the original residents don't like, and regard as harmful to them. An army can invade a country. Bacteria can invade a wound. Etc.

Some people like to refer sardonically to any large movement of people into an area, as an "invasion", when they know it really isn't since the newcomers have permission to come in, and aren't breaking any laws. Beach town often refer to the "tourist invasion" that happens ever summer, though in fact the residents welcome the newcomers (or at least welcome their money) and give them permission to enter. They know that's not a real "invasion", though it is cute to call it one sometimes.

"Immigration" can also refer to large numbers of people who enter an area... but the difference is, in an immigration, the immigrants have been given permission from the people in charge of the area, to enter. In an immigration, the newcomers usually enter with the intention of staying more or less permanently.

"Illegal immigration" is a contradiction in terms, since immigrants, by definition, are not illegal.

But the people who enter a country without permission (usually in the form of a visa), in violation of a country's laws, are not immigrants by the usual definition of the word. They are illegal aliens. And in large numbers, they are, in fact, invaders.

Invasions and immigrations both involve large numbers of people coming into an area where they weren't before. The difference is, immigrants have permission from those in charge of the area. Invaders don't.

The phenomenon of millions of Mexican citizens crossing the U.S. border without permission, violating laws that require they stay out, is the classic definition of an invasion. If they don't think so, that doesn't keep it from being so.

[majoun]

So does the mass migration of Californians into Texas also count as an "invasion", since those coming in are quite hostile to the values of the area that is being settled in? If anything, white Californian values are way more foreign to Texan values than Mexican values.