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Old 08-21-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Who were you aiming to ass or unass?
For those of us who served in the military phrase means leaving the area of operation. Now you figure it out from there since you have such a poor opinion of this country.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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Yep, that's the preferred method for fascists.
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The locations may change but the actions of fascists and their sycophants are nothing if not predictable.
Are a large number of liberals Hitler sycophants? From the many times the terms "fascist" and Nazi" are used and tossed around by them one would think so. Does this mean you're all heading to Deutschland with "Ãœber alles" on your lips?
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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Are a large number of liberals Hitler sycophants? From the many times the terms "fascist" and Nazi" are used and tossed around by them one would think so. Does this mean you're all heading to Deutschland with "Ãœber alles" on your lips?
*Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Kinda scary how close it fits our contemporary right-wingers, ain't it? It's like an eyewitness account of the mass of humanity at a Tea Bag rally. Say, did you see that picture someone posted the other day of a Tea Bag male model?
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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So this message is that the people that commit war crimes are safe, while those that report on same, will be taught a harsh lesson.
Appeal Bradley, when we get this joker out of office. Hang in there. His time will come.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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For those of us who served in the military phrase means leaving the area of operation. Now you figure it out from there since you have such a poor opinion of this country.
Wait, so if you stay, you're "assing?" Boy, that's a keeper.

On a related note, why do some people feel a need to create new words to substitute for words that were perfectly simple and clear in the first place? In this case, "Are you leaving or staying?" Did the person who came up with this really think, "I'm going to ass right here" sounded better? Something like "SNAFU," is clever. This one, not so much.

In answer to your question, yes, I have thought about it many times, but not for that reason. As the climate gets warmer, I want to move further and further north. I like to ski, eh? I'll just keep the, "Do you mind if I ass up (or would it be 'unass?') here" query to myself when and if I cross that border.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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*Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Kinda scary how close it fits our contemporary right-wingers, ain't it? It's like an eyewitness account of the mass of humanity at a Tea Bag rally. Say, did you see that picture someone posted the other day of a Tea Bag male model?
The Tea Party represents the Republicans less and less as time goes on which I see as a good thing. Not being a member or proponent of any political party (I can think for myself, thank you) I don't really give a damn in the overall scheme of things but when WW II terms with Holocaust implications are bandied around gratuitously, it hits way too close to home.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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The Tea Party represents the Republicans less and less as time goes on which I see as a good thing. Not being a member or proponent of any political party (I can think for myself, thank you) I don't really give a damn in the overall scheme of things but when WW II terms with Holocaust implications are bandied around gratuitously, it hits way too close to home.
"Fascism" is not a "WWII or Holocaust term." That's an asinine statement. It refers to a group of people with particular political beliefs that transcend any particular event. I have no problem with assigning the label "socialist," so long as it is accurate. Most of the cretins here couldn't articulate the definition of either if their lives depended upon it, which is why they misuse them so often.

Notice how you didn't point out how my assertion was incorrect and point out how the Tea Baggers differ with those 14 characteristics. Instead you make an appeal to emotion of how you associate fascism with the Holocaust and WWII and all that pap which is supposed to shut down the conversation because you've apparently been offended by the statement. Save it for someone else, or, better yet, tell me how Tea Baggers diverge from those 14 characteristics.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Earth
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So Manning got a longer sentence than Jerry Sandusky. What twisted standards of justice.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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Here's the difference:

If Bradley Manning had released only those select classified documents that blew the whistle on unethical activity, he might have been a hero with justice on his side.

Instead, Bradley Manning chose to dump over 700,000 classified documents out on the internet for anyone to go through, most of which he surely didn't know the possible implications of.

That's not heroic, patriotic activity; it's reckless disregard for the sworn secrecy that is obviously critical to the function of any military / intelligence organization.

We can't just condone people with access to top intelligence just dumping troves of intel out on the internet anytime they get a bee in their bonnet, and that's why he got what he deserved.

Spot on analysis. Furthermore, Manning ignored any and all appropriate channels established in the "Military Whistleblower Protection Act" for expressing his concerns. If he had gone to the Army IG, Army CID, DOD auditors, or even any member of congress with specific complaints of illegal acts he would have had legal protection...and my respect. Instead the spiteful little punk indiscriminately data-dumped reams and reams of classified documents to the public at large. In the process, he revealed secrets about numerous legal and legitimate secret operations. Furthermore, he jeopardized the security of countless fellow military members, CIA agents, and local intelligence contacts who had nothing to do whatsoever with any "illegal acts" which were supposedly bothering his conscience. THAT is why what he did is criminal.

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Old 08-21-2013, 05:33 PM
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So Manning got a longer sentence than Jerry Sandusky. What twisted standards of justice.
Manning's sentence is ten times more than the actual time served by the soldier convicted in the My Lai Massacre. That involved the murder, gang rape and mutilation of up to 500 unarmed civilians. The conviction was for the murder of 22 people. So I guess officially the US government now sees the leak of documents proving the existence of war crimes including the murder of innocent civilians to be an order of magnitude at least 10 times worse than the actual murder of innocent civilians.

It will be interesting to see how much time the US soldier that actually pled quilty to the premeditated murder of 16 Afghan civilians is sentenced to.
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