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How many white people stood up when Tim McVeigh blew up the OK City Fed Building? How many said, white people need to stop using bombs to kill people? How many said, we need GUN CONTROL?
Interesting thing about that, it didnt change a thing. But let a middleeastern guy blow something up it changes a whole lot.
And the Centennial Park bomber who was made because of abortion and wanted to make a point but it isnt ruled as terrorism.
Because individuals are responsible for crime, not "race".
White people don't all rally together and protest when a white person kills and then charge themselves with guilt over a white person killing someone or committing treason.
How many white people stood up when Bradley Manning gave secrets away? How many said, "c'mon white people, we can do better than this"... NOBODY!
How many white people stood up when Tim McVeigh blew up the OK City Fed Building? How many said, white people need to stop using bombs to kill people? How many said, we need GUN CONTROL?
You being black has zero to do with black people committing crime. You're NOT RESPONSIBLE for crimes you didn't commit.
End the race baiting, and race panderers who make a living off of "being the voice of black people" the sharptons, the jacksons etc.
INDIVIDUALS COMMIT CRIME, RACE IS IRRELEVANT.
Actually, there ARE cases of racial crimes and it would be very stupid to ignore that. There are indeed cases of whites murdering blacks and visa versa solely because of their color. Sexual orientation and religious murders as well.
The problem here however is the high percentage of violence/murder/crime per share of the population.
One can't ignore the fact that the mostly black on black murder rate in Chicago is out of control.
To ignore such things and only saying it's misguided individuals is hiding your head in the sand.
I have known a lot of black people over the years (I'm nearly 70 now), and I can't think of any that I didn't like, that were not decent people, and did not want the same things in life that I have always wanted.
I have worked with blacks as well; some were my shipmates when I was in the Navy. At one job I held, as a field service technician for an oceonographic instruments company in San Diego, my immediate supervisor was a black man, and we did a week long training seminar together at the Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant in Huntsville, AL. It was a fun time (this was in the 1970's). I'm sure we raised some eyebrows even then, when we were out to dinner together, or at breakfast in the morning, as this wasn't usual for that part of the country, even in the 70's.
It is unfortunate that today, the media is creating the illusion that race relations are as bad as they were many years ago, when I was a boy. But, I think that is what it is; an illusion. We also have Jessie Jackson and his ilk creating that illusion.
But, I think that race relations are far better than they were decades ago, and we have prominent black people who are making a difference, who speak out (and up) and are doing their part to build a better America: Alan West, Dr. Ben Carson, Herman Cain, and people like Juan Williams (whom I've come to respect more and more, even thogh he's a "liberal" ... ha, ha) and numerous others that appear regularly on news broadcasts, giving their opinions and commentary.
I'm not an Obama fan, but it has nothing to do with his race. He is a socialist, and he is anti-America. Here again, it is unfortunate that those who support Obama blame those of us who don't for being "racist."
The statistics, as you pointed out, are not good. But (and I know I'll get blasted for saying this), the blame lies largely with Democrat policies. You cannot build character and good citizenship in people, and build help them to build a better life, by supplying there every need! What incentive does that offer them? They have to be able to see a path foreward, and a reason to put forth their own effort.
Sadly, the Obama economy makes life hard for everyone, black and white. Jobs are scarce, and what we used to call "full time" (40 hours) is being cut to less than 30 hours, and many are reduced to even less (part time only). This does not help, and those who are "poor" have even less incentive, and their desparation often leads to crime.
In order to have hope, we must have opportunity, and blacks need to believe that they can also participate in that opportunity. Poor government policies keep them from realizing their potential (this goes for poor whites as well).
The government cannot help people with "handouts." It must create a business climate that is conducive to growth, and prosperity. It is not government that creates prosperity. It is working men and women, who build the businesses that produce the products and services. That is what creates wealth. Wealth is not finite.
I'm too long here, but I hope I gave you something meaningful.
What a gosh damn good post my good friend. We are all in this thing together. We struggle as a whole together, not alone. Things are tough, for one and all. Why don't we just find common ground, to all get along.
I see things among are young race related incidents getting much worse not better. What you say is spot on. For it is not the government that creates a enviroment of prosperity. But the Hard working men and women alike. Some won't beleive that theory though.
The government in giving handouts out so readily, only contributes to the problems we all share.
We all should be pissed at the government. Where the hell are the jobs promised to all of us, and those who have recently lost jobs, or hours put down to part-time work. I already again, no both women and men whose full time hours, have as of late been put down to part-time employment. No benefits we know this that sucks big time.
I know a brillant law graduate, who can only find part-time work, why is that. We know the answer. We should not be against each other, but for each other, and fight for all of our rights!
Good call: How about Snatch, Reservoir Dogs, and... Boondock Saints?
Okay...
Snatch= Euroean Gypsies
Boondock Saints= Irish
Reservoir Dogs didn't GLORIFY crime, actually all but Boondock Saints showed the nasty side and consequences of crime.
Boondock Saints was an anti-crime movie like Batman only with slightly less over the top abilities.
I don't think any of the movies in either list GLORIFIED crime....they are entertainment giving us a fictional look inside crime.
You folk DO understand the difference don't you?
Now, take a look a a rap video....that is GLORIFYING crime and the criminal lifestyle. Let's not forget that among the rappers, you're not "legit" unless you're from the hood and have committed crimes.
Weren't you asking for more variety than just Italians glorifying criminals?
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Reservoir Dogs didn't GLORIFY crime, actually all but Boondock Saints showed the nasty side and consequences of crime.
Boondock Saints was an anti-crime movie like Batman only with slightly less over the top abilities.
I don't think any of the movies in either list GLORIFIED crime....they are entertainment giving us a fictional look inside crime.
You folk DO understand the difference don't you?
Now, take a look a a rap video....that is GLORIFYING crime and the criminal lifestyle. Let's not forget that among the rappers, you're not "legit" unless you're from the hood and have committed crimes.
There's no difference between a rap video and Reservoir Dogs. If you're claiming that rap videos glorify crime, then so does that movie b/c they both showing the exact same thing.
But rather than argue that, let's do some more switching!
Ocean's 11, Italian Job, and The Score?
Breaking Bad, Hannibal, and Boardwalk Empire?
Savages, Scarface, and The Usual Suspects?
Transporter, Swordfish, and Payback?
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